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09-11-2008, 03:36 PM #1I spend too much of my life on TPF!
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What kind of aperture are you guys using for landscapes? I'm having a little trouble noticing the difference between f/5.6 and f/32 when shooting landscapes.
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I usually start at f/11 and hyperfocal.
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I use the lens's sweet spot for the focal length being used. So for me it depends on the lens.
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So what are the low apertures like f/30 and f/32 for?
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the lower apertures increase the depth of field meaning more of your picture will be in focus.
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Depending on the lens f/32 would like, give you, for landscapes, for example:
20 feet ~ Infinite @ 100mm,
5 feet ~ Infinite @ 50mm,
1 foot ~ Infinite @ 20mm
f/8 (a typical sweet spot) would give you:
60 feet ~ infinite @ 100mm
15 feet ~ Infinite @ 50mm
2 feet ~ Infinite @ 20mm
Those are actual readings from 3 different Nikon lenses I have. It just depends on what you want in focus, how much light you have available, whether or not you're using a tripod, and how good your camera is at high ISO shots.
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If you are having trouble noticing the difference, and the shots appear to be OK, then the most likely reason is that you do not have anything in the foreground.
Here 'foreground' can be defined as the area before you achieve acceptable sharpness at f5.6.
If you want to demonstrate the difference, take some shots with someone or something closer to the camera. Focus at the hyperfocal distance for each aperture and notice how the close object becomes sharper the greater the f-stop number.
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It depends on the format for me. I tend to use wide angle lenses for landscape photographs. I'm usually trying for the largest aperture that'll get me the DOF I need. I don't want to go too small because aperture diffraction can cause softness.
F/5.6 to f/11 with a wider than normal lens is usually plenty of DOF for APS-C format cameras. I'm nervous about going with apertures smaller than f/11 on APS-C because of aperture diffraction. It's less of a problem on larger formats."There's no particular class of photograph that I think is any better than any other class. I'm always and forever looking for the image that has spirit! I don't give a damn how it got made." -Minor White
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@bifurcator: How do I find out the "sweet spot" of my lenses, and what do you mean by it?
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09-12-2008, 11:26 AM #10
I believe what he means is the lens performs the best (best image quality) at that Aperture/focal length combination.
Some lenses review site such as Photozone may have some data regarding that info. Of course, if you want, you can do some test yourself, if you have the equipment and setup.
For example, according to Photozone. The Nifty Fifty perform the best at F/5.6 and of course on 50mm focal length.Last edited by Dao; 09-12-2008 at 11:29 AM. Reason: Add Example
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as some others have said, start by what lens you are using and then figure the lighting conditions. I don't think you can really ever say use a certain aperture for landscape, or sports, or anything as conditions change. If it's foggy, or raining the light will be less than sunny and clear, so an f2.8 lens might be great set at f2.8-5.6 in the sun but need more like f8-9 in the rain.
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There are two contradictory factors that work in opposition when considering how 'well' a lens perfoms in terms of image quality.
Generally speaking the more a lens is stopped down the better it perfoms from the POV of abberations as the centre of the lens is typically less subject to these than the extremities.
Conversly, the more a lens is stopped down the more the image suffers from diffraction effects as light passes the iris.
At some point (the sweet spot) the sum of these two effects is minimised and optimum quality is achieved.
For modern, complex lenses this aperture tends to be around f5.6-f8 and for older (e.g. 4 element) lenses around f11.
Some years back the magazine 'Amateur Photographer' published lens tests which included a much enlarged section of a negative at all available f-stop detentes and you could clearly see the quality improve and the drop off again as the lens was stopped down. (They also printed these series from both the centre and edge of the negatives (same target) which was instructive).
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if you didnt understand then I guess its a little over your head, sorry
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