The Sly: Opions please :-)

thebeginning · 12-22-2005, 01:44 PM

i'll agree that the b&w looks better, and skin smoothing does have its place, but not here. This obviously isnt the type of shot that really calls for it, and it looks a little cheesy mixing the two 'types' of photography. I think it might work a little better also if the lips werent so soft, and they were more similar to the original.

JTHphoto · 12-22-2005, 04:08 PM

that's a beautiful photo, the hair is a little distracting, but i don't think it detracts from the shot, she has beautiful eyes. that is some outstanding editing Dave, most of your explanation was greek to me, but i am definitely going to give that a try.

Dave_D · 12-25-2005, 10:06 AM

Something about this picture keeps me coming back. I decided to try my hand at a b&w conversion. What I didn't like was the darkness under the eyes so I brushed it out. What do you think?

Tsimiri · 12-25-2005, 11:16 PM

What I like about it is the fact that it has a blueish tint to it. Very slight, but still distinguishable in contrast with the previous b&w posted. I would like to see it in sepia. An older looking sepia. How would I go about doing that?

~Fiona

thebeginning · 12-26-2005, 11:18 AM

i really wish the freckles were still there. they add alot of personality....

edit:

decided to try a different version, still with the freckles and 'grain' to keep the original feel. also did some work on the background, which was distracting.

Dave_D · 12-26-2005, 09:42 PM

This image is one that can be taken several different places in editing all with great results. It was a nice one to work on for the "super model makeover" as well as the "natural" look. Either way can't go wrong with such a versatile image. I definitely like the hues of thebeginning edit. I would like to see more of her in future post.

Luminosity · 12-28-2005, 06:05 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by thebeginning

i really wish the freckles were still there. they add alot of personality....

edit:

decided to try a different version, still with the freckles and 'grain' to keep the original feel. also did some work on the background, which was distracting.

I love this version ! It's put back some of what I missed post editing ie. the freckles etc and gives the photo a dreamy feel.

Dave's editing is great, yet I felt the second one did look a little over-done with PS, as TheBeginning said : digitally drawn.

Her freckles are beautiful and I think they should never be edited out.

Beautiful picture Tsimiri

Tsimiri · 12-28-2005, 09:23 PM

Thank you :-). The girl in the picture didn't like it, but then again she doesn't really like any pictures taken of her. Although my favorite thing about taking pictures of her is that her eyes are amazing. They are even more fantastic in person.

~Fiona

albo · 01-02-2006, 08:30 AM

I'm not a big fan of photoshopping, except for stuff like resizing images or making them b&w, that kind of thing, but as for taking out features, there's something Orwellian or Stalinian about it...

The pictures in posts #6 & #13 makes her look like a supermodel alright, but too plain and unremarkable.. I agree with thebeginning... and that picture in post #20 is good.. as is the original... I like the bit of hair and freckles... adds personality.

Alpha · 01-02-2006, 01:29 PM

The off-b&w remake is great. Looks like a headshot.

kalee · 01-02-2006, 01:45 PM

here is my try.
played with curves a bit...
then simply used the highpass tool to pop the eyes.
i converted the second one.

i think she's beautiful and the hair doesn't bother me a bit.

1. color

2. converted

Glen C · 01-02-2006, 08:48 PM

I thought the hair on the eye was a little distracting as was the nose piercing. I used the healing brush on what appear to be blemishes/pimples rather then freckles. Also gave the image a little color saturation. Not much really because it originally is a nice picture.

12-22-2005, 01:44 PM	#16
thebeginning TPF Junkie! Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Texas Posts: 3,777 My Photos Are NOT OK to Edit Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts My Gallery: (0)	i'll agree that the b&w looks better, and skin smoothing does have its place, but not here. This obviously isnt the type of shot that really calls for it, and it looks a little cheesy mixing the two 'types' of photography. I think it might work a little better also if the lips werent so soft, and they were more similar to the original. __________________ -Daniel C. I shoot Nacon and Kinon.

12-25-2005, 10:06 AM	#18
Dave_D I spend too much of my life on TPF! Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Garden State Posts: 372 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts My Gallery: (0)	Something about this picture keeps me coming back. I decided to try my hand at a b&w conversion. What I didn't like was the darkness under the eyes so I brushed it out. What do you think? __________________ Life is short! Take More pictures ;^)

12-25-2005, 11:16 PM	#19
Tsimiri Been spending a lot of time on here! Join Date: May 2005 Location: Colorado, US Posts: 127 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts My Gallery: (0)	What I like about it is the fact that it has a blueish tint to it. Very slight, but still distinguishable in contrast with the previous b&w posted. I would like to see it in sepia. An older looking sepia. How would I go about doing that? ~Fiona __________________ "Life is just a trick of the lighting."

12-26-2005, 09:42 PM	#21
Dave_D I spend too much of my life on TPF! Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Garden State Posts: 372 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts My Gallery: (0)	This image is one that can be taken several different places in editing all with great results. It was a nice one to work on for the "super model makeover" as well as the "natural" look. Either way can't go wrong with such a versatile image. I definitely like the hues of thebeginning edit. I would like to see more of her in future post. __________________ Life is short! Take More pictures ;^)

12-28-2005, 06:05 PM	#22
Luminosity TPF Junkie! Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Melbourne, Oz but missing Toronto. Posts: 2,844 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts My Gallery: (29)	Quote: Originally Posted by thebeginning i really wish the freckles were still there. they add alot of personality.... edit: decided to try a different version, still with the freckles and 'grain' to keep the original feel. also did some work on the background, which was distracting. I love this version ! It's put back some of what I missed post editing ie. the freckles etc and gives the photo a dreamy feel. Dave's editing is great, yet I felt the second one did look a little over-done with PS, as TheBeginning said : digitally drawn. Her freckles are beautiful and I think they should never be edited out. Beautiful picture Tsimiri __________________ The camera is about "wanting to know". Photography is more then technique. It requires an internal lens.Insight doesnt happen often on the click of the moment, like a lucky snapshot, but comes in its own time and more slowly and from nowhere but within.There is outer light and inner light.... A photographer needs both. Lumi-Scribbles Lumi-Shots

12-22-2005, 04:08 PM	#17
JTHphoto TPF Junkie! Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: AZ Posts: 4,370 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts My Gallery: (0)	that's a beautiful photo, the hair is a little distracting, but i don't think it detracts from the shot, she has beautiful eyes. that is some outstanding editing Dave, most of your explanation was greek to me, but i am definitely going to give that a try.

12-26-2005, 11:18 AM	#20
thebeginning TPF Junkie! Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Texas Posts: 3,777 My Photos Are NOT OK to Edit Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts My Gallery: (0)	i really wish the freckles were still there. they add alot of personality.... edit: decided to try a different version, still with the freckles and 'grain' to keep the original feel. also did some work on the background, which was distracting. __________________ -Daniel C. I shoot Nacon and Kinon. Last edited by thebeginning; 12-26-2005 at 11:22 AM.

12-28-2005, 09:23 PM	#23
Tsimiri Been spending a lot of time on here! Join Date: May 2005 Location: Colorado, US Posts: 127 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts My Gallery: (0)	Thank you :-). The girl in the picture didn't like it, but then again she doesn't really like any pictures taken of her. Although my favorite thing about taking pictures of her is that her eyes are amazing. They are even more fantastic in person. ~Fiona __________________ "Life is just a trick of the lighting."

01-02-2006, 08:30 AM	#24
albo No longer a newbie, moving up! Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 27 My Photos Are OK to Edit Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts My Gallery: (0)	I'm not a big fan of photoshopping, except for stuff like resizing images or making them b&w, that kind of thing, but as for taking out features, there's something Orwellian or Stalinian about it... The pictures in posts #6 & #13 makes her look like a supermodel alright, but too plain and unremarkable.. I agree with thebeginning... and that picture in post #20 is good.. as is the original... I like the bit of hair and freckles... adds personality.

01-02-2006, 01:29 PM	#25
Alpha Troll Extraordinaire Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: San Francisco, CA Posts: 4,800 My Photos Are NOT OK to Edit Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post My Gallery: (0)	The off-b&w remake is great. Looks like a headshot.

01-02-2006, 01:45 PM	#26
kalee Been spending a lot of time on here! Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 193 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post My Gallery: (0)	here is my try. played with curves a bit... then simply used the highpass tool to pop the eyes. i converted the second one. i think she's beautiful and the hair doesn't bother me a bit. 1. color 2. converted

01-02-2006, 08:48 PM	#27
Glen C No longer a newbie, moving up! Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Halifax, Nova Scotia Posts: 32 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts My Gallery: (0)	I thought the hair on the eye was a little distracting as was the nose piercing. I used the healing brush on what appear to be blemishes/pimples rather then freckles. Also gave the image a little color saturation. Not much really because it originally is a nice picture. __________________ Freelance Photojournalist

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