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07-16-2012, 11:46 AM #1No longer a newbie, moving up!
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Canon T4i owners - How is the video autofocus
I expressed some interest on another thread in the T4i for its auto focusing video. I currently own a 7d and HF G10 camcorder. I was able to take some amazing video on the 7d, but the manual focus became extremely challenging when filming my kids at play. Obviously the camcorder is made for this, but the lack of DOF is the trade off.
My question for T4i owners is how impressed are you with the focus capabilities? Speed, accuracy, touch screen auto focus, other? How does it compare with other HD camcorder auto focus systems you may have experience with?
I'm keeping the 7d, but considering replacing the G10 for the T4i depending on the level of pros and cons. Feedback from actual owners is my first step in my consideration.
Much appreciated.
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07-17-2012, 06:06 AM #2TPF Noob!
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I've had my t4i for 4 days now. So far I love it. I haven't tried video yet. I will try it this week/weekend and report back.
As a test I should shoot video in my driveway spinning 360 letting the camera focus on it's own?
What spin speed? Maybe 1 revolution in 10 seconds or is that too slow? 5 seconds? You want to see focus accuracy and focus speed?
I didn't get the STM lens, I have the EFS 18-55 lens. Is this a deal breaker?
My neighbors already think I'm crazy, this should help.
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07-17-2012, 10:07 AM #3Been spending a lot of time on here!
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I thought T4i can only autofocus with STM lens, but it seems other non-STM lenses can be used also. Youtube search yielded quite a bit of results. AF speed is nothing to write home about but seem to work pretty well.
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07-17-2012, 04:07 PM #4TPF Noob!
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I tried it in my shop this afternoon. It did ok...
BUT
I can hear the little motor on the video playback.
It was dead quiet in there. I stood in one spot and spun a 360. I took 23 seconds, longer than I thought.
1920X1088 @ 29 fps. 23 seconds is a 133 mb file
In one spot I was looking down a row in between some shelves. I think it got confused a little - the video got a little jumpy there.
Overall it's ok, but really, I'm not impressed. I'll keep my t4i for pictures and my video camera for video.
my 2 cents...
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07-18-2012, 09:53 AM #5Been spending a lot of time on here!
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Yeah, I have Canon HV30 for my videos as well. But I don't usually carry my camcorder with me everywhere while my T2i is usually by my side. I don't take a lot of videos (files are huge) with my T2i but it's there when I need it. I try not to use MF much. If it's bright enough outside I try to stop down the lens as much as possible so the focus is not too big of a deal. I don't think DSLR makers will ever make it as good as their camcorder counterparts. I think they're mostly trying to play a none too hurried slow catch up with each other so the video capability (lack there of) doesn't become their Achilles heel in sales.
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07-18-2012, 11:58 AM #6TPF Junkie!
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I am not sure why everyone is so worried about AF in DSLR's. It won't be as good as dedicated video cameras, at least not for a while. A cheap 100 buck camcorder still has better AF than EOS 1D C for 16 grand..
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07-18-2012, 04:03 PM #7I spend too much of my life on TPF!
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I rather have manual focus to control what I'm shooting. It's not hard to follow focus with your hand on the lens.
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07-19-2012, 07:52 AM #8Been spending a lot of time on here!
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Last edited by hukim0531; 07-19-2012 at 07:57 AM.
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07-19-2012, 01:36 PM #9I spend too much of my life on TPF!
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It is a photography camera, it is not designed for video purposes and you should never use it as such [there are exceptions but they don't apply here]. Before the digital revolution, nobody ever tried to use their 35mm SLR as a video camera. Making SLRs digital does not change anything.
Rigging the DSLR to be a decent video camera is just pointless. You spend as much money attempting in vain to bring the DSLR to a decent video camera level, and you've spent more then you would if you just bought a video camera that performs better then your DSLR and rig combined.
If you're so concerned about missing valuable moments, bring your camcorder with the same attitude that you bring your photography camera everywhere you go.Last edited by Crollo; 07-19-2012 at 01:44 PM.
Do not take my criticism as personal, mean or bullying just because it's blunt.
If you wish to improve your image, try following my advice. Otherwise, go post your photos on facebook if you want sugar coated praise.
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07-19-2012, 01:47 PM #10I spend too much of my life on TPF!
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Are you kidding me? A Canon Rebel will take better video than any camcorder in the same price range. At this point in time, you can't say "it is not designed for video purposes". If you can show me a camcorder that had the same DOF, quality, and settings, then please show it to me.
Originally Posted by Crollo
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07-19-2012, 01:50 PM #11I spend too much of my life on TPF!
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Last edited by Crollo; 07-19-2012 at 02:31 PM.
Do not take my criticism as personal, mean or bullying just because it's blunt.
If you wish to improve your image, try following my advice. Otherwise, go post your photos on facebook if you want sugar coated praise.
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07-19-2012, 03:14 PM #12I spend too much of my life on TPF!
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Are you saying the t200 is better than a T4i for video?
Originally Posted by Crollo
EDIT: also, having a mic jack, HDMI, manual audio controls, live view, flippy screen, and other video features clearly show my T3i isn't built for video at all. I hope you can sense my sarcasm.
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07-19-2012, 03:33 PM #13I spend too much of my life on TPF!
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Last edited by Crollo; 07-19-2012 at 04:07 PM.
Do not take my criticism as personal, mean or bullying just because it's blunt.
If you wish to improve your image, try following my advice. Otherwise, go post your photos on facebook if you want sugar coated praise.
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07-19-2012, 04:54 PM #14I spend too much of my life on TPF!
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I'm sorry I may have missed it, but when did I mention the 5DIII? Statistically speaking, the 5DIII is better than a T4i. Statistically speaking, the T4i is better than the T200. Also, the t200 shoots in .avi. I feel sorry for anyone that has to edit footage from that.
DSLR is NOT the way to go if you're on a tight budget. BUT for the price, a $1200 DSLR will have better quality than a $1200 camcorder.
Do we have more issues? I'll be glad to back up my views and thoughts.My website (In super-beta mode right now): http://kenturner.comli.com
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07-19-2012, 05:04 PM #15I spend too much of my life on TPF!
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Do not take my criticism as personal, mean or bullying just because it's blunt.
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