Woman sued, shot wedding on Rebel XTi

[ghpham]

Why must you air your dirty laundry here? Contact a Mod so appropriate action can take place.

Are you so perfect that you can't take criticism? I don't play football, but I sure know enough that I can tell when Bret Favre f'ed up big time this year.

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[dom yo]

no hogging the popcorn
pass some over!

::Tosses bag over::

[ghpham]

On post, I think brides and grooms need to ask for real world references (much like a job interview), so they can contact and verify the latest work. In this new world where photo's can easily be stolen, I'm not forking over 1300 without doing my homework first.

[Derrel]

Yes, the war photographer is laughing. Nothing new, you're often on here trying to agitate people, stirring things up while making no real contributions to discussing technique, C&C, composition, lighting,etc,etc. We all know your 'schtick' cloudwalker. I do hope you are enjoying living in "Europe" these days, and that your days as a brilliant, world-famous war photographer have not scarred you too awfully badly. Please return to your hysterical laughing now.

[bennielou]

pfft cloud we've left the show a page or more ago - we now appear to be into stalkers and stuff...

Bennielou - my dad taught my dad to never write a letter when in a state of hightened emotion - because often as not one will say things or do things that they would otherwise never say or do and the results are often far from what they want in the end.
And thus I'll pass the same advice along - you need to take a breath, a moment to calm and collect your thoughts before writing and clicking the post button.

You aren't a stalker. one person is.
You get a crazy assed email, and then you decide.

[bennielou]

Bennielou,
It is obvious that you're new to photography. I made my living as a photographer in the late 1980's and early 1990's, all pre-digital. My website as you call it is merely 3,000 or so of my personal photos, including many sports shots. My studio lighting skills are probably well advanced above yours, both in terms of scope (people,product,commercial) as well as being well-versed in sports and photojournalism.

As far as the wanna-be label you throw around...I am a former professional photographer and have filed many IRS tax years with the term "photographer" on the occupation line.My work has been published in newspapers and magazines, and is in the homes of thousands of payed clients--on walls and desks and mantles. After seeing your work in last week's engagement photos and the resulting melt-down from a tiny bit of criticism, I think it is time that you step up to the plate and admit that indeed, your work is not without need for improvement. Serious improvement, such as backing off on the over the top noise reduction, as well as differentiating between an incomplete pose and a completed pose...i.e., learning when to orient the camera horizontally versus vertically, as learning when not to lop people off at the joints (wrist,hand,knee,etc). Your compositions, and I have seen many of them, are often the vivtim of incomplete poses; as somebody who made a full-time living photographing studio portaiture, I can tell you, one of the FIRST things the photographer is responsible for is making sure that the subjects are presented well--meaning that their clothing is well-styled, neat, and free of lint, dandruff, spots,price stickers, etc,etc, and that bra straps, slips, and jewlery and accessories are properly draped and adjusted; that is part of being a "professional" people photographer. As is showing women and men how to properly pose/orient their feet,torsos,and hands and arms for the cameras. That all comes under the heading of "posing people", and as a former professional portrait shooter, I have posed thousands of people. A little tip might be to learn from older,more-experienced shooters who would tell you that a good way to demonstrate your degree of professionalism to your clients is to make a small, deliberate adjustment to a clothing item to ***demonstrate to them**** that you, the professional are actually paying close attention to the **details** of their clothing. Of course, that's an old professional's trick, and not something that is likely to be found by learning photography on your own in the "photoshop Age".

I find it appaling that a "professional" photographer would abdicate responsibility for the clothing adjustment of a groom's lapel, on frame after frame,after frame. To the point that the photographer gets taken to court over it? That sounds like a pretty serious lack of observational ability, or perhaps extreme inattention, or maybe excessive nervousness. But then again, this is the Photoshop Era, and there are literally thousands of full-time wedding shooters all across America, with no formal training, little equipment, save for a digital SLR or two and a couple of lenses. Kind of like the "professional" who this thread is about--the woman with a Canon Rebel and an 18-55 kit lens, who bothched a wedding because she was not really a professionally-capable photographer, and did not even know the f/stop range of her lenses, and who lost a huge judgement by being unable to deliver the goods. Mostly due to inexperience, but also by trying to shoot a low-light or indoor wedding with low-cost, beginner equipment WITHOUT extreme skill in the art and craft of photography. This country is filled with lots of so-called professional photographers who are good at marketing their mediocre skills, as this thread so amply demonstrates.

You have absoultely no idea what you are talking about See my website to see what a nebie I am.

This is just the kind of thing I'm talking about.

[bennielou]

then be the bigger person.

You be the bigger person. You have a crazy ass nut person run all around the interent and say you suck.

You deal with a 20 year old who has nothing to do all day but to put up bad reviews about you.

You go ahead and be the bigger person. I can't.

[Arch]

So lets ignore the warnings...GJ!