Nissan GTR

[jdsfighter]

Ok, lets start again with a clean slate. Would you like help to create a good HDR image? Im glad you called these some other "awful" process attempts because you're right. I dont remember seeing any of your other 120 posts so dont know if you can do an HDR or not. If you want the look you have here, then they arent HDR and should be posted elsewhere. If you would like help just ask.

If I were to post the raws, think there's a chance you could give me a decent example?

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[Bynx]

If you post them, they will come....or something like that. Sure, Id be glad to give it a try. If you use dropbox, just put your files in the public folder and PM me the link.

[jdsfighter]

If you post them, they will come....or something like that. Sure, Id be glad to give it a try. If you use dropbox, just put your files in the public folder and PM me the link.

I'll send you some of the GTR as well as some from the park.

[Bynx]

I will do my best, and explain exactly what I did. The shots look sharp and I like the angles, but the rest not so much. I just hope they have been shot properly for HDR.

[charlie76]

[that1guy]

I'm sorry normally i keep quiet but .. i don't know exacty what program you used to make these but it looks like photoshop... there aren't any details and the ones i can see are hidden in darkness

I'm no HDR expert or claim to be just stating my useless opinion, but if it makes you feel any better when i first started my images would look like this... practice practice practice you will start understanding HDR more develop your own style

[Bynx]

Okay here is my take on the car. I dont know why you included the landscape shot, but it was nice to work on and I will include it here. Tomorrow we can talk about this and some of the problems with the car pic. The landscape shot had no problems at all. Nine shots will give you a hint why. The car only 3 and with sky, even a not so nice one from this scene's point of view, and the dark shadows and black tires needed probably 5 shots both over and underexposed to catch the highlight reflection on the paint and the shadow under the car so we can have some separation from the tires and dark bumper thingy.

[KongKurs]

Nice ones, bynx.

What bynx is trying to tell, is that your initial processed photos are more about tonemapping than HDR.
HDR photos increase dynamic range massively, making it necessary to tonemap, in order for your monitor to be able to display the entire dynamic range. You "press the histogram back" in a way..

As you can see on bynx' images, the dynamic range is increased, making the grilles, wheels and other structures in the dark areas stand out better. The same goes for the lighter areas.
If you are looking to create artistic tonemapped images like you have posted in here, maybe you don't need to do HDR all the time, just try out Topaz Adjust or something similar instead..?

[o hey tyler]

Okay here is my take on the car. I dont know why you included the landscape shot, but it was nice to work on and I will include it here. Tomorrow we can talk about this and some of the problems with the car pic. The landscape shot had no problems at all. Nine shots will give you a hint why. The car only 3 and with sky, even a not so nice one from this scene's point of view, and the dark shadows and black tires needed probably 5 shots both over and underexposed to catch the highlight reflection on the paint and the shadow under the car so we can have some separation from the tires and dark bumper thingy.

In the shot or the GTR, were you going for the "vast array of mid tones" look? It does not look very high dynamic range to me. Just flat IMO.

[dandaluzphotography]

Wow. Word police much? Are you a mod? I must have missed something. How about we stick to the pictures and photographic discussions and leave the handholding for the therapist's couch?

You're absolutely right. I was completely wrong. Politeness and civility have no place here or in any society. I won't make that mistake again.

[Bynx]

Hopefully this will look a bit less flat. There is a big loss sometimes when pics get posted.

[jake337]

Nice ones, bynx.

What bynx is trying to tell, is that your initial processed photos are more about tonemapping than HDR.
HDR photos increase dynamic range massively, making it necessary to tonemap, in order for your monitor to be able to display the entire dynamic range. You "press the histogram back" in a way..

As you can see on bynx' images, the dynamic range is increased, making the grilles, wheels and other structures in the dark areas stand out better. The same goes for the lighter areas.
If you are looking to create artistic tonemapped images like you have posted in here, maybe you don't need to do HDR all the time, just try out Topaz Adjust or something similar instead..?

Or learn how to "properly" process an HDR image then let the artistic side run from there!


Gotta learn to crawl before you run!

[BlueMeanieTSi]

Indeed the first set are worse than most tonemapped single images. I don't necessarily agree with the final edits that Bynx posted but they are good HDR starting points (aside from the sky) for a nice stylized image.

I know he comes off harsh and doesn't necessarily communicate the way you would want but look at the images you'll see his has detail in the tires, the bumpers, the black areas - that is the reason you DO HDR.

[BlueMeanieTSi]

I disagree.

[JAC526]

Im sorry if I cant put sweet icing sugar on bad images. But these are definately not even HDR so I wont sugar coat my feelings. I might be a little more sympathetic if they were posted in the Altered Images storage bin, and make my comments about them from that point of view, but they are here in the HDR bin. Im willing to give any help I can, but if this is the look the OP wants, I dont know why he calls them HDR. In fact, I resent the insinuation. Sometimes the truth hurts, but we are all here to learn. I didnt say anything except the absolute truth. If you start off with 2 or more files for HDR to get details in the highlights and shadows, then process the image so you blow out the highlights and fill in the shadows then doing the HDR WAS a waste of time. And the same look could have been done using a single file and really poor Photoshop skills. I like the depth of field used in both images. And the backgrounds could be easily fixed giving better emphasis to the cars, but the processing is bad. And anything I say is my opinion. If Im wrong then jump in here and prove me wrong, dont just say it.

I like you Bynx. Stick to your guns. Its actually refreshing to see someone who has such a strong opinion on something.

Keep up the good work man. Seriously.

In fact the first HDR I do I expect you to slam me. Can't wait.