Rally for Canada

Jklersy · 12-08-2008, 01:17 AM

It kinda helps that i live in the US, so I dont find this "hot button" at all.

I love that **** eatin grin on #8. overall good pics!

skieur · 12-08-2008, 08:22 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by Antarctican

I agree with Crosby...it seems to me that Chiller is just showing images from a rally he observed, and he is neither promoting nor condemning the position the attendees were taking. His statement that the shots are 'just some images from my walk around there' highlights this. He merely 'documented' (photographed) what he saw. And he did it rather well, too, in my view. [Personally, I especially like the 'We Voted' photograph.]

Even the media have a fairness ethic. You don't present one side of politics visually or on television without the other side. So, moderators, is politics off or on. If it is on, then we need to see photos of the Pro-Coalition Rallys.

skieur

skieur · 12-08-2008, 08:28 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by Jklersy

It kinda helps that i live in the US, so I dont find this "hot button" at all.

I love that **** eatin grin on #8. overall good pics!

That is the photo of a Conservative right wing member of parliment and former television commentator. His vested interest is in the Anti-Coalition forces, since it would cost him in seat in parliament if the Pro-Coalition group takes over.

By the way, I understand that the Anti-Coalition group was made up largely of white males. Perhaps that is why there are no photos of the make-up of the crowd from the front. Of course the worker and women bashing aspects of the Conservative economic statement may have had something to do with the nature of the crowd too.

skieur

Captain IK · 12-08-2008, 08:50 AM

Skieur,

This wasn't a political thread until you made it one.

skieur · 12-08-2008, 10:04 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by Captain IK

Skieur,

This wasn't a political thread until you made it one.

The text on the signs made it a political thread.

skieur

kundalini · 12-08-2008, 10:22 AM

So, if this had been posted in the photojournalism forum, would that have sufficed skieur? Obviously a "photojournalist" can't be in two places at the same time and only cover one event at a time, regardless of fairness ethics. Does this also mean that "photojournalist" of events only document what they believe in? The text on the signs only reflect other peoples beliefs and opinions, not the photographer.

To make it "fair" in your eyes, why don't you post photos of the rally you went or stfu. It was nowhere near a political thread until you decided to join.

/rant

kundalini · 12-08-2008, 05:25 PM

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Chiller · 12-09-2008, 09:17 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by kundalini

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DigiJay · 12-09-2008, 10:05 AM

Wow this is a photography forum not a political forum. Photography can be about ANYTHING or anyone. It's art.
I think these are great shots regardless of what or who they represent. Chiller continues to display his interesting and high calibre photography. I look forward to his next series.

**Antarctican** · 12-09-2008, 10:08 AM

^^^ Yeah, what he said!

Captain IK · 12-09-2008, 10:52 AM

Yep

Artograph · 12-10-2008, 05:23 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by Captain IK

Skieur,

This wasn't a political thread until you made it one.

I agree....

.................................................. ............................................

....Oh, and those shots are wonderful Chill!!! Especially 4, 5, 7 and 8!!

Aggressor · 12-10-2008, 06:48 PM

Wow... The argument about the content of the photography representing the views of the photographer is rather weak. On a similar note, one can argue that shooting a wedding suggests that you believe in marriage. And if one does the cliche shot of a ring on an open bible, the photographer agrees with the text contained within? And the posting of the wedding photos on this site -- does that constitute a 'sociological' post that states the political views on marriage and the Bible?

On the other hand, if this set was had only left-wing content, would there honestly have been any comment about being for political gain?

Also, I've seen sets in the photojournalism gallery of the RNC and DNC -- clearly political events... But was that a 'political' post?

The photos here are fair game. And if the post title is the event title, it would be stupid to change it. After all, if the event is called "Rally for Canada," would it be ethical to title it "Rally for Right Wing Canadians?" That's like calling "Jane & John's Wedding" to "The Ceremony End of the end Freedom for John"

12-08-2008, 10:22 AM	#21
kundalini TPF Junkie! Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: State of Confusion Posts: 6,815 My Photos Are NOT OK to Edit Thanked 59 Times in 54 Posts My Gallery: (0)	So, if this had been posted in the photojournalism forum, would that have sufficed skieur? Obviously a "photojournalist" can't be in two places at the same time and only cover one event at a time, regardless of fairness ethics. Does this also mean that "photojournalist" of events only document what they believe in? The text on the signs only reflect other peoples beliefs and opinions, not the photographer. To make it "fair" in your eyes, why don't you post photos of the rally you went or stfu. It was nowhere near a political thread until you decided to join. /rant __________________ The liver is evil and must be punished!!! Don't let your mind Post Toastee Like a lot of my friends did........... *Tommy Bolin*

12-09-2008, 09:17 AM	#23
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12-09-2008, 10:05 AM	#24
DigiJay I spend too much of my life on TPF! Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Mississauga, ON Posts: 291 My Photos Are OK to Edit Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts My Gallery: (1)	Wow this is a photography forum not a political forum. Photography can be about ANYTHING or anyone. It's art. I think these are great shots regardless of what or who they represent. Chiller continues to display his interesting and high calibre photography. I look forward to his next series. __________________ digiJAY Nikon D200, Nikon D80, Nikkor 18-200 VR, Sigma 18-55 2.8, Sigma 70-200 APO 2.8, Sigma 2.0x Teleconverter, Nikon SB 600, Wacom Intuos 6x11, a couple strobe lights, bags, and the best tool of all: passion. www.digijay.ca Take only photos, Leave only footprints.

12-09-2008, 10:08 AM	#25
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12-09-2008, 10:52 AM	#26
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12-08-2008, 01:17 AM	#16
Jklersy Been spending a lot of time on here! Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: I live in MN Posts: 120 My Photos Are OK to Edit Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts My Gallery: (0)	It kinda helps that i live in the US, so I dont find this "hot button" at all. I love that **** eatin grin on #8. overall good pics!

12-08-2008, 08:22 AM	#17
skieur TPF Junkie! Join Date: May 2007 Location: Canada Posts: 2,554 My Photos Are OK to Edit Thanked 15 Times in 15 Posts My Gallery: (30)	Quote: Originally Posted by Antarctican I agree with Crosby...it seems to me that Chiller is just showing images from a rally he observed, and he is neither promoting nor condemning the position the attendees were taking. His statement that the shots are 'just some images from my walk around there' highlights this. He merely 'documented' (photographed) what he saw. And he did it rather well, too, in my view. [Personally, I especially like the 'We Voted' photograph.] Even the media have a fairness ethic. You don't present one side of politics visually or on television without the other side. So, moderators, is politics off or on. If it is on, then we need to see photos of the Pro-Coalition Rallys. skieur

12-08-2008, 08:28 AM	#18
skieur TPF Junkie! Join Date: May 2007 Location: Canada Posts: 2,554 My Photos Are OK to Edit Thanked 15 Times in 15 Posts My Gallery: (30)	Quote: Originally Posted by Jklersy It kinda helps that i live in the US, so I dont find this "hot button" at all. I love that **** eatin grin on #8. overall good pics! That is the photo of a Conservative right wing member of parliment and former television commentator. His vested interest is in the Anti-Coalition forces, since it would cost him in seat in parliament if the Pro-Coalition group takes over. By the way, I understand that the Anti-Coalition group was made up largely of white males. Perhaps that is why there are no photos of the make-up of the crowd from the front. Of course the worker and women bashing aspects of the Conservative economic statement may have had something to do with the nature of the crowd too. skieur

12-08-2008, 08:50 AM	#19
Captain IK I spend too much of my life on TPF! Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Windsor, ON. Canada Posts: 456 My Photos Are OK to Edit Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts My Gallery: (0)	Skieur, This wasn't a political thread until you made it one.

12-08-2008, 10:04 AM	#20
skieur TPF Junkie! Join Date: May 2007 Location: Canada Posts: 2,554 My Photos Are OK to Edit Thanked 15 Times in 15 Posts My Gallery: (30)	Quote: Originally Posted by Captain IK Skieur, This wasn't a political thread until you made it one. The text on the signs made it a political thread. skieur

12-10-2008, 05:23 PM	#27
Artograph TPF Junkie! Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: I am Canadian, eh. Posts: 1,074 My Photos Are OK to Edit Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts My Gallery: (0)	Quote: Originally Posted by Captain IK Skieur, This wasn't a political thread until you made it one. I agree.... .................................................. ............................................ *....Oh, and those shots are wonderful Chill!!! Especially 4, 5, 7 and 8!!*

12-10-2008, 06:48 PM	#28
Aggressor Been spending a lot of time on here! Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Vancouver, BC Posts: 172 My Photos Are OK to Edit Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts Blog Entries: 1 My Gallery: (0)	Wow... The argument about the content of the photography representing the views of the photographer is rather weak. On a similar note, one can argue that shooting a wedding suggests that you believe in marriage. And if one does the cliche shot of a ring on an open bible, the photographer agrees with the text contained within? And the posting of the wedding photos on this site -- does that constitute a 'sociological' post that states the political views on marriage and the Bible? On the other hand, if this set was had only left-wing content, would there honestly have been any comment about being for political gain? Also, I've seen sets in the photojournalism gallery of the RNC and DNC -- clearly political events... But was that a 'political' post? The photos here are fair game. And if the post title is the event title, it would be stupid to change it. After all, if the event is called "Rally for Canada," would it be ethical to title it "Rally for Right Wing Canadians?" That's like calling "Jane & John's Wedding" to "The Ceremony End of the end Freedom for John"

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