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    guilty Elinchrom BXRI 500 & pocket wizard

    Hi forum,

    Today I got my Elinchrom BXRI 500 kit:

    2x BXRI 500
    1X EL-Skyport speed
    2x Portalite softbox
    2x lightstand
    1x Rotalux strip light

    Also a new lens Canon EF 180mm f/3.5 L Macro USM

    Okay here we go, I also have 2x 580EXII speedlites + 2x FlexTT5 and 1x Mini TT1
    After some research the best way I think is to buy 2x PW PowerST4 for the BXRI 500 to work with the PW.
    After buying the above I am broke and have to wait until I am able to get the PowerST4's

    I am now using the MiniTT1 on my Canon 5DII transmitting to a FlexTT5 with a EL-Skyport speed on top
    Using my second FlexTT5 for a 580EXII that works!

    Why, using the EL-Skyport speed on top of the camera doesn't really work loads of miss fires with the BXRI 500 at random.
    Maybe I am doing something wrong?

    One thing I don't understand is the speed sync mode:
    I set the EL-Skyport speed by holding the test button down for 5 seconds until it flashes 2 times
    Then set BXRI 500 to r.2 mode
    Set the camera to 1/250 - now I have a dark bottom border on my shots

    Any forum members having the BXRI 500's working with speeds 1/250 or higher only using the EL-Skyport speed?

    Grtx Rick
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    I can't help you with the Skyport system, but it occurs to me that the misfires could simply be a result of 'stacking' your triggers.

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    Max sync speed for a 5D MkII is 1/200th of a second.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gryphonslair99 View Post
    Max sync speed for a 5D MkII is 1/200th of a second.
    And using "some" triggering systems, many users find that the stated maximum speed of 1/200 second is still too fast, and they must drop a little bit more speed to get full, 100 percent flash synchronization across the entire 24x36mm sensor area. It is harder to sync fast across a FF sensor than with a smaller sensor.

    Good luck with it. And congratulations of the new 1800mm Canon macro--wow, what a fine optic!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Derrel View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by gryphonslair99 View Post
    Max sync speed for a 5D MkII is 1/200th of a second.
    And using "some" triggering systems, many users find that the stated maximum speed of 1/200 second is still too fast, and they must drop a little bit more speed to get full, 100 percent flash synchronization across the entire 24x36mm sensor area. It is harder to sync fast across a FF sensor than with a smaller sensor.

    Good luck with it. And congratulations of the new 1800mm Canon macro--wow, what a fine optic!
    Gee, I didn't know that canon made an 1800mm Macro lens or any 1800mm lens.
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    Ooopsie!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Guess I put one too many zeros on there!
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    Darn, I was hoping that Canon had a new lens I could get.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Raincheck View Post

    I am now using the MiniTT1 on my Canon 5DII transmitting to a FlexTT5 with a EL-Skyport speed on top
    You don't need to stack both triggers on your camera. If you want to use your speedlights in conjunction, use the MiniTT and set your monolights to slave. Problem solved. That's what I did when I used that combo. I've never had a misfire using my Skyports and I'm suspecting, based on the information you've posted, you're not allowing enough recycle time to occur. Keep in mind, if you are looking at stopping really quick motion, you need to upgrade to the Ranger line. On the BXri 500's, you can freeze basic motion such as jumping and things like that (just watch for hand and feet movement). With that being said, you can find tutorials on the web using work arounds to get higher speed sync but it takes practice. What is it that you're trying to capture at high speed?

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    Hi Guys,

    Thanks for the replies, I was sure I did nothing wrong but still using the el-skyport speed only I have a 90% miss fire rate. Setting them to slave same thing even firing the flash with the test button on the back of the flash doesn't always work. So I brought them back and see what happens.
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    Canon EF 180mm f/3.5 L Ultra Sonic
    Canon Speedlight 580 EXII 2x - Canon Speedlight 430 EXII 1x - Pocket wizard MiniTT1 -
    Pocket wizard FlexTT5 3 x
    Elinchrom bxri 500 3x - Camranger

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    The PW Hyper Sync option can let you shoot at about 1/250 on a 5D MKII with little to no banding.
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