protester behind white house, US

The_Traveler · 12-14-2009, 09:39 AM

protester behind white house, US

bigtwinky · 12-14-2009, 09:46 AM

What an intriguing character! I love the person in the image, but I'm not liking the lettering in the banner behind him. The look/outline is not consistent and it tends to draw my eye more than the actual subject of the image.

Did you sharpen this in post processing? Maybe the letters were affected differently due to the processing...maybe look at localized processing on the man and not the background.

But generally, a fun shot.

IgsEMT · 12-14-2009, 09:53 AM

Quote:

but I'm not liking the lettering in the banner behind him.

Ditto.

The_Traveler · 12-14-2009, 09:58 AM

Thank for the response.
The letters appear exactly that way in reality. They have been behind vinyl for years and there is lots of blurring and smudging of the letters on the poster.
IMO, the lettering is important to the point because it places him in some context. Their incompleteness and lack of clarity should encourage the viewer to actually think about the person and his involvement and commitment.

Why is it you don't like them?

Lew

DReali · 12-14-2009, 11:03 AM

birlliant shot! but as it stands i have to agre about the lettering....its not the outlines that bother me but i feel that although it gives context to your subject it draws the attention away from him. maybe lowering the contrast/brightness in the banner or increasing the contrast/brightness of the subject (or both) may help.

bigtwinky · 12-14-2009, 11:11 AM

I totally agree in terms of the importance of seeing the lettering behind the guy. Adds alot to the context and helps to tell the story.

What I don't like is how they look visually, whether from behind vinyl, processing or whatever else. I find their look is a bit strong. If the entire set of letters were like the ones on the bottom, then there wouldn't be an issue. But the top two lines, mainly "A Day, eace-vigil" have a really odd looking outline to them.

RMThompson · 12-14-2009, 11:33 AM

Try softening up the letters a bit with some blur. Just a bit though, so they stay almost readable.

WimFoto · 12-14-2009, 01:09 PM

you captured the 'twinkle' look in this guy's eyes really well. it makes him look friendly.

i agree with the lettering, it simply isn't nice to look at and the pp sharpening
doesn't help. but the letters are needed to show us that this is indeed a
protester or that there is a protest going on.

what we don't see is the white house, but i'll take your word for it that he is indeed behind it.

kundalini · 12-14-2009, 01:20 PM

Your subject is spot-on.

The brightness of the banner in the top left of it does draw my eye, but it also makes me wander over the entire banner. The fact that all the lettering is not distinguishable isn't a detraction for me, quite the contrary, it adds to the message... the chaos. I don't need to know exactly what it says..... your subject speaks quite loudly on that matter.

Well done.

Flower Child · 12-15-2009, 01:10 PM

I give this a 10 out of 10. A very powerful photo. The face of the man really makes a statement and tells a story. Great technical aspects also with the spot on tones textures etc. Great great capture. Hold on to this one for sure.

hawkeye · 12-15-2009, 04:41 PM

Yup. Great capture. The lettering doesnt add context to your subject, it draws attention away from it.

I think overall its great though. Love the beard and hair. Its what pulls the shot off imo

12-14-2009, 09:39 AM	#1
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12-14-2009, 09:46 AM	#2
bigtwinky TPF Junkie! Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Montreal Posts: 2,552 My Photos Are OK to Edit Thanked 108 Times in 99 Posts My Gallery: (0)	What an intriguing character! I love the person in the image, but I'm not liking the lettering in the banner behind him. The look/outline is not consistent and it tends to draw my eye more than the actual subject of the image. Did you sharpen this in post processing? Maybe the letters were affected differently due to the processing...maybe look at localized processing on the man and not the background. But generally, a fun shot. __________________ Pierre Bourgault Photographer (website) Flickr (work always in progress) ----------------------------------- "If your picture isn't good enough, you're not close enough." - Robert Capa ----------------------------

12-14-2009, 09:58 AM	#4
The_Traveler TPF Junkie! Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Mid-Atlantic US Posts: 3,074 My Photos Are NOT OK to Edit Thanked 19 Times in 13 Posts My Gallery: (63)	Thank for the response. The letters appear exactly that way in reality. They have been behind vinyl for years and there is lots of blurring and smudging of the letters on the poster. IMO, the lettering is important to the point because it places him in some context. Their incompleteness and lack of clarity should encourage the viewer to actually think about the person and his involvement and commitment. Why is it you don't like them? Lew __________________ The_Traveler It's not enough to say you like it - a primer for newbies on C&C

12-14-2009, 11:03 AM	#5
DReali I spend too much of my life on TPF! Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Switzerland Posts: 264 My Photos Are NOT OK to Edit Thanked 4 Times in 3 Posts My Gallery: (0)	birlliant shot! but as it stands i have to agre about the lettering....its not the outlines that bother me but i feel that although it gives context to your subject it draws the attention away from him. maybe lowering the contrast/brightness in the banner or increasing the contrast/brightness of the subject (or both) may help. __________________ Keep in mind I'm colorblind! (That's right, they all look the same to me)

12-14-2009, 11:11 AM	#6
bigtwinky TPF Junkie! Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Montreal Posts: 2,552 My Photos Are OK to Edit Thanked 108 Times in 99 Posts My Gallery: (0)	I totally agree in terms of the importance of seeing the lettering behind the guy. Adds alot to the context and helps to tell the story. What I don't like is how they look visually, whether from behind vinyl, processing or whatever else. I find their look is a bit strong. If the entire set of letters were like the ones on the bottom, then there wouldn't be an issue. But the top two lines, mainly "A Day, eace-vigil" have a really odd looking outline to them. __________________ Pierre Bourgault Photographer (website) Flickr (work always in progress) ----------------------------------- "If your picture isn't good enough, you're not close enough." - Robert Capa ----------------------------

12-14-2009, 09:53 AM	#3
IgsEMT TPF Junkie! Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: NYC Posts: 1,374 My Photos Are NOT OK to Edit Thanked 66 Times in 63 Posts My Gallery: (0)	Quote: but I'm not liking the lettering in the banner behind him. Ditto.

12-14-2009, 11:33 AM	#7
RMThompson the TPF moderators rock my world! Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 1,713 My Photos Are OK to Edit Thanked 4 Times in 4 Posts My Gallery: (0)	Try softening up the letters a bit with some blur. Just a bit though, so they stay almost readable. __________________ VISIT MY FLICKR PLEASE... it gets lonely. www.flickr.com/photos/rmthompson What I take pictures through: Nikon D50 w/18-55 stock lens 50mm 1.8 55-200 VR SB-800 Flash Cheap-o eyeglasses - I'm half blind without 'em! remember: Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin, Historical Review of Pennsylvania, 1759

12-14-2009, 01:09 PM	#8
WimFoto I spend too much of my life on TPF! Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: chelsea, quebec Posts: 352 My Photos Are OK to Edit Thanked 13 Times in 13 Posts My Gallery: (2)	you captured the 'twinkle' look in this guy's eyes really well. it makes him look friendly. i agree with the lettering, it simply isn't nice to look at and the pp sharpening doesn't help. but the letters are needed to show us that this is indeed a protester or that there is a protest going on. what we don't see is the white house, but i'll take your word for it that he is indeed behind it. __________________ http://www.wimfotocards.blogspot.com

12-14-2009, 01:20 PM	#9
kundalini TPF Junkie! Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: State of Confusion Posts: 6,835 My Photos Are NOT OK to Edit Thanked 59 Times in 54 Posts My Gallery: (0)	Your subject is spot-on. The brightness of the banner in the top left of it does draw my eye, but it also makes me wander over the entire banner. The fact that all the lettering is not distinguishable isn't a detraction for me, quite the contrary, it adds to the message... the chaos. I don't need to know exactly what it says..... your subject speaks quite loudly on that matter. Well done. __________________ The liver is evil and must be punished!!! Don't let your mind Post Toastee Like a lot of my friends did........... *Tommy Bolin*

12-15-2009, 01:10 PM	#10
Flower Child I spend too much of my life on TPF! Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Southeastern Kansas Posts: 681 My Photos Are OK to Edit Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts My Gallery: (0)	I give this a 10 out of 10. A very powerful photo. The face of the man really makes a statement and tells a story. Great technical aspects also with the spot on tones textures etc. Great great capture. Hold on to this one for sure. __________________ Nikon D80 Nikkor 18-135mm AF-S 3.5-5.6 My Photography Victims of Time . Shelter From the Storm . Kansas Butterflies . Train Ride

12-15-2009, 04:41 PM	#11
hawkeye TPF Junkie! Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Georgia Posts: 1,072 My Photos Are OK to Edit Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post My Gallery: (40)	Yup. Great capture. The lettering doesnt add context to your subject, it draws attention away from it. I think overall its great though. Love the beard and hair. Its what pulls the shot off imo __________________ Nikon D80 \| Nikkor 50mm 1.8 \| Nikkor 18-135mm \| Nikkor 28mm 2.8 \| Nikkor 70-300VR \| Macbook \| Lightroom/CS4

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