Good Editing?

DWHJR · 07-04-2009, 11:31 AM

tell me what you think about the before and after of this photo I edited. Let me know if you think it is a good edit or not?

Before

After

MattxMosh · 07-04-2009, 11:34 AM

I'd say you did a pretty good job.

At first glance I don't see any odd cloning marks. I would like to see the tiny bit of motion blur gone though.

Nice job/shot.

nsupanda · 07-04-2009, 03:43 PM

Woah! You got rid of a whole person! That is awesome!

Lynnzora · 07-04-2009, 04:04 PM

Very AWESOME... I agree with the motion blur comment... if possible.

Weaving Wax · 07-04-2009, 04:49 PM

That must've taken you forever to clone a whole person out! Very nice. Love the tone in the photo. Nice effect.

KmH · 07-04-2009, 07:36 PM

Good clone job, but Uh, it's still crooked. I'd say the b&w conversion lacks contrast in the mid-tones so there is a lot of detail in the dress that gets lost.

Maybe something like this: I tried to make the groom's feet a bit more noticeable too.

**Bitter Jeweler** · 07-04-2009, 08:04 PM

Nice job!

I'd use some blur or something to get rid of the cloning marks.

DWHJR · 07-04-2009, 10:57 PM

KmH,

I like the contrast that you have, bringing out the dress a bit more as well as the grooms feet, however the crop you choose i think does not do the picture justice, in my opinion. It makes the picture uneven, half of the picture has a blank wall with the other half the key subject. With my crop it puts them in the center attention with even walls on each side highlighting the entrance.

The contrast you did however is very nice.

KmH · 07-05-2009, 09:37 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by DWHJR

KmH,

I like the contrast that you have, bringing out the dress a bit more as well as the grooms feet, however the crop you choose i think does not do the picture justice, in my opinion. It makes the picture uneven, half of the picture has a blank wall with the other half the key subject. With my crop it puts them in the center attention with even walls on each side highlighting the entrance.

The contrast you did however is very nice.

The crop is mostly in lieu of cloning. I converted your color version and since it was late.......

You're right the centered composition worked. However, all the expanse of wall doesn't really add to the image. You might consider a square crop.

dak1b · 07-05-2009, 04:10 PM

coool pic. love how u edited a whole person out. very nice

flyin-lowe · 07-05-2009, 04:30 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by dak1b

coool pic. love how u edited a whole person out. very nice

Actually this is not accurate, here thumb nail is still there.

Just kidding, great job.
I was happy when I learned how to crop a photo.

c.cloudwalker · 07-05-2009, 04:52 PM

When I first saw your thread I thought, WOW! Being new to digital I was amazed you could get rid of this woman and make it look so good. "It" being the edit of the woman.

But then I looked at the two pictures and I couldn't help but wonder why. Why spend time making a boring photo? Now, before you get upset, let me finish.

1/ I don't get putting one (or a few) B&W pictures in a mostly color album. Especially one that is not a good B&W.

2/ You didn't even bother to straighten out the horizon.

3/ and that is the most important. To me, by removing this woman, you killed the photo.

It took me a while to figure out that both the bride and groom were in the middle and I still have not the slightest idea what is going on. But it doesn't matter. The original shot is just so-so. The edited shot is blah. In my book so-so is better than blah.

And then I look at it again. And, guess what? You have a kinda wonderful picture in the original. Well, ok, to my sick, twisted brain

But, seriously, I will not be the only one seeing that while there is nothing to see in the edit.

Original: You have a bride and groom rushing forward and a pregnant woman holding the door open for them because they are rushing towards pregnancy, the next step. And she is laughing because this photo is mysterious (not clear at all) and because she knows why they are rushing.

Alright, I did mention my twisted brain, so take it for what it's worth but I believe that you could have simply straightened out the original shot and be done with it.

fokker · 07-05-2009, 05:31 PM

Interesting take cloudwalker.

IMHO I'm not a fan of the original pic itself but I think you did an excellent job in the edit - though you *must* straighten that horizon.

DWHJR · 07-07-2009, 09:37 AM

Thanks for all of the responses, especially the one that informed I missed the thumbnail! gotta take care of that one

I think if you were to look at the original from a journalistist point of view, there is alot of story behind this, however, I think that the bride and groom would like to have the photo more centered on them and not distracting others.

It's hard for someone who was not there to look at the photo and know exactly whats happening. The reason I took this one at that current moment, is because they were walking into the reception and this is the funny moment they wanted to show everyone! They will remember this moment for the rest of there lives and now they have a picture to remind them.

Once again thanks for all the responses and I will be sure to put them into the picture!

Harvey

07-04-2009, 11:31 AM	#1
DWHJR TPF Noob! Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 15 My Photos Are OK to Edit Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts My Gallery: (0)	Good Editing? tell me what you think about the before and after of this photo I edited. Let me know if you think it is a good edit or not? Before After __________________ Cheers! DWHJR There's to much in this world to not see...

07-04-2009, 03:43 PM	#3
nsupanda No longer a newbie, moving up! Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Eastern Oklahoma Posts: 73 My Photos Are OK to Edit Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts My Gallery: (0)	Woah! You got rid of a whole person! That is awesome! __________________ www.amandarealphotography.com

07-04-2009, 04:49 PM	#5
Weaving Wax I spend too much of my life on TPF! Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: U.S. Posts: 678 My Photos Are OK to Edit Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts My Gallery: (0)	That must've taken you forever to clone a whole person out! Very nice. Love the tone in the photo. Nice effect. __________________ Flick my pics

07-04-2009, 07:36 PM	#6
KmH TPF Junkie! Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Iowa Posts: 8,418 My Photos Are OK to Edit Thanked 439 Times in 405 Posts My Gallery: (0)	Good clone job, but Uh, it's still crooked. I'd say the b&w conversion lacks contrast in the mid-tones so there is a lot of detail in the dress that gets lost. Maybe something like this: I tried to make the groom's feet a bit more noticeable too. __________________ . .Keith. . . . "The bitterness of poor quality remains long after the sweetness of a low price is forgotten" - Benjamin Franklin NAPP member - referral link: http://www.photoshopuser.com/?aid=luhgxq Illegitimum non carborundum Last edited by KmH; 07-04-2009 at 07:53 PM.

07-04-2009, 08:04 PM	#7
Bitter Jeweler *** Tool Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Cleveland, Ohio Posts: 3,212 My Photos Are OK to Edit** Thanked 258 Times in 216 Posts My Gallery: (0)	Nice job! I'd use some blur or something to get rid of the cloning marks. __________________ Posting photos in the General Gallery forum is like hanging prints in the basement...behind the furnace.

07-04-2009, 11:34 AM	#2
MattxMosh Been spending a lot of time on here! Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Merrimac(k) Valley, Ma Posts: 185 My Photos Are NOT OK to Edit Thanked 5 Times in 5 Posts My Gallery: (8)	I'd say you did a pretty good job. At first glance I don't see any odd cloning marks. I would like to see the tiny bit of motion blur gone though. Nice job/shot.

07-04-2009, 04:04 PM	#4
Lynnzora Been spending a lot of time on here! Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Southern California Posts: 200 My Photos Are OK to Edit Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post My Gallery: (0)	Very AWESOME... I agree with the motion blur comment... if possible.

07-04-2009, 10:57 PM	#8
DWHJR TPF Noob! Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 15 My Photos Are OK to Edit Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts My Gallery: (0)	KmH, I like the contrast that you have, bringing out the dress a bit more as well as the grooms feet, however the crop you choose i think does not do the picture justice, in my opinion. It makes the picture uneven, half of the picture has a blank wall with the other half the key subject. With my crop it puts them in the center attention with even walls on each side highlighting the entrance. The contrast you did however is very nice. __________________ Cheers! DWHJR There's to much in this world to not see...

07-05-2009, 09:37 AM	#9
KmH TPF Junkie! Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Iowa Posts: 8,418 My Photos Are OK to Edit Thanked 439 Times in 405 Posts My Gallery: (0)	Quote: Originally Posted by DWHJR KmH, I like the contrast that you have, bringing out the dress a bit more as well as the grooms feet, however the crop you choose i think does not do the picture justice, in my opinion. It makes the picture uneven, half of the picture has a blank wall with the other half the key subject. With my crop it puts them in the center attention with even walls on each side highlighting the entrance. The contrast you did however is very nice. The crop is mostly in lieu of cloning. I converted your color version and since it was late....... You're right the centered composition worked. However, all the expanse of wall doesn't really add to the image. You might consider a square crop. __________________ . .Keith. . . . "The bitterness of poor quality remains long after the sweetness of a low price is forgotten" - Benjamin Franklin NAPP member - referral link: http://www.photoshopuser.com/?aid=luhgxq Illegitimum non carborundum

07-05-2009, 04:10 PM	#10
dak1b TPF Junkie! Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: California Posts: 1,461 My Photos Are OK to Edit Thanked 18 Times in 18 Posts My Gallery: (0)	coool pic. love how u edited a whole person out. very nice

07-05-2009, 04:30 PM	#11
flyin-lowe Been spending a lot of time on here! Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 146 My Photos Are OK to Edit Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post My Gallery: (0)	Quote: Originally Posted by dak1b coool pic. love how u edited a whole person out. very nice Actually this is not accurate, here thumb nail is still there. Just kidding, great job. I was happy when I learned how to crop a photo. __________________ Canon XS 18-55mm f/3.5-5.6 EF-S IS 75-300mm f/4.0-5.6 III EF 50 mm f/1.8 II 430 EX Speedlight Manfrotto 3021 Pro

07-05-2009, 04:52 PM	#12
c.cloudwalker TPF Junkie! Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: An American in Europe Posts: 2,839 My Photos Are NOT OK to Edit Thanked 111 Times in 97 Posts My Gallery: (0)	When I first saw your thread I thought, WOW! Being new to digital I was amazed you could get rid of this woman and make it look so good. "It" being the edit of the woman. But then I looked at the two pictures and I couldn't help but wonder why. Why spend time making a boring photo? Now, before you get upset, let me finish. 1/ I don't get putting one (or a few) B&W pictures in a mostly color album. Especially one that is not a good B&W. 2/ You didn't even bother to straighten out the horizon. 3/ and that is the most important. To me, by removing this woman, you killed the photo. It took me a while to figure out that both the bride and groom were in the middle and I still have not the slightest idea what is going on. But it doesn't matter. The original shot is just so-so. The edited shot is blah. In my book so-so is better than blah. And then I look at it again. And, guess what? You have a kinda wonderful picture in the original. Well, ok, to my sick, twisted brain But, seriously, I will not be the only one seeing that while there is nothing to see in the edit. Original: You have a bride and groom rushing forward and a pregnant woman holding the door open for them because they are rushing towards pregnancy, the next step. And she is laughing because this photo is mysterious (not clear at all) and because she knows why they are rushing. Alright, I did mention my twisted brain, so take it for what it's worth but I believe that you could have simply straightened out the original shot and be done with it.

07-05-2009, 05:31 PM	#13
fokker TPF Junkie! Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Taupo, NZ Posts: 1,299 My Photos Are OK to Edit Thanked 66 Times in 59 Posts My Gallery: (0)	Interesting take cloudwalker. IMHO I'm not a fan of the original pic itself but I think you did an excellent job in the edit - though you must straighten that horizon. __________________ Ever evolving list of gear: \| Canon 40d \|Canon 5d + Grip \| Canon 1d mkII \| Sigma 10-20mm \| Sigma 15mm Fisheye \| EF-s 17-55 f2.8 IS \| EF 70-300mm IS USM \| \|EF 70-200 f2.8L IS \| EF 50mm f1.4 \| EF 100mm f2.8 Macro \| EF 2x extender \| EF 1.4x extender \| Lensbaby 2.0 \|430EX \| 430EXII \| \| Photoshop CS4 \| Lightroom v2 \| flickr

07-07-2009, 09:37 AM	#14
DWHJR TPF Noob! Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 15 My Photos Are OK to Edit Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts My Gallery: (0)	Thanks for all of the responses, especially the one that informed I missed the thumbnail! gotta take care of that one I think if you were to look at the original from a journalistist point of view, there is alot of story behind this, however, I think that the bride and groom would like to have the photo more centered on them and not distracting others. It's hard for someone who was not there to look at the photo and know exactly whats happening. The reason I took this one at that current moment, is because they were walking into the reception and this is the funny moment they wanted to show everyone! They will remember this moment for the rest of there lives and now they have a picture to remind them. Once again thanks for all the responses and I will be sure to put them into the picture! Harvey __________________ Cheers! DWHJR There's to much in this world to not see...

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