Comparison. Same lens, D100 vs. D90 your thoughts?

Vicelord John · 12-13-2009, 06:23 PM

I took this picture back in May with my D100, using a Sigma 70-300 and really liked it. It has been one of my favorite pictures I've taken since I started this hobby.

Went back today (not in optimal conditions) and stood in the same spot with my D90. Same lens, waited for a train, and reproduced nearly the same shot.

I'm wondering which shot looks better quality to everyone. I know which one I think, but I don't want to sway anyone. LOL!

vh5150 · 12-13-2009, 07:44 PM

I vote for the second shot. And that place looks very familiar.

chip · 12-13-2009, 08:10 PM

I have a D100 also. For being such an old camera it really is still an excellent camera. It proves that 6MP is plenty for most applications and you really gain high ISO performance. Between the two pictures I like the first one better because of the plane in the sky.

Atlas77 · 12-13-2009, 08:14 PM

My vote is for the second image, its much clearer and sharper, not to mention the lighting is way better.

Should we go down to EXIF data comparison?

Pugs · 12-13-2009, 08:22 PM

Second one is a wee-bit over-exposed on my monitor. I really can't say which body is "better" from the two pics because the lighting is different (three hours later in day, six months apart, etc...), the shutter speed/aperture completely different. The older pic didn't show the ISO rating, but I'd bet that's different, too.

DScience · 12-13-2009, 08:27 PM

Second is sharper, but a little blown out

im_jacobf · 12-13-2009, 08:29 PM

I personally prefer the second image, mostly because it is sharper and more concise. I would have toned the exposure down some, however.

Vicelord John · 12-14-2009, 03:22 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by Pugs

Second one is a wee-bit over-exposed on my monitor. I really can't say which body is "better" from the two pics because the lighting is different (three hours later in day, six months apart, etc...), the shutter speed/aperture completely different. The older pic didn't show the ISO rating, but I'd bet that's different, too.

well it would be impossible to use the exact same settings on a different day. Short of buying another D100 and waiting until the same day next summer, this is the best it is going to get. I just wanted to get a feel for clarity of images. I'm sorry you read too much into it.

Pugs · 12-14-2009, 03:57 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by Vicelord John

Quote: Originally Posted by Pugs

Second one is a wee-bit over-exposed on my monitor. I really can't say which body is "better" from the two pics because the lighting is different (three hours later in day, six months apart, etc...), the shutter speed/aperture completely different. The older pic didn't show the ISO rating, but I'd bet that's different, too.

well it would be impossible to use the exact same settings on a different day. Short of buying another D100 and waiting until the same day next summer, this is the best it is going to get. I just wanted to get a feel for clarity of images. I'm sorry you read too much into it.

Not reading too much into it. I'm just saying that this comparison is invalid in terms of comparing the two bodies.

It's hard to read a person's "tone" over the Internet, but the "sorry you read too much into it" makes your response sound defensive. My intent wasn't to dig at you or put on the defense at all. I was merely pointing out something that I didn't know if you were aware of or not. I truly apologize if you felt that I was attacking you, or condescending to you, or anything else negative. I was trying to help not hinder.

Sw1tchFX · 12-14-2009, 03:59 PM

first one, the airplane makes it.

IgsEMT · 12-14-2009, 04:04 PM

Both images are different
Other then 300mm, and same place, nothing else is similar - different settings, different ambient light.
#1 I like the colors and general feel of the image more BUT it is very soft.
#2 seems a bit more flat in terms of lighting but sharper.
Hard to make an objective call here.
Sorry.

Quote:

It proves that 6MP is plenty for most applications

Amen! Many folks feel that MORE is better but as many who been shooting digital know that is isn't true.

Vicelord John · 12-14-2009, 04:07 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by Pugs

It's hard to read a person's "tone" over the Internet, but the "sorry you read too much into it" makes your response sound defensive. My intent wasn't to dig at you or put on the defense at all. I was merely pointing out something that I didn't know if you were aware of or not. I truly apologize if you felt that I was attacking you, or condescending to you, or anything else negative. I was trying to help not hinder.

I didn't really feel you were attacking me, but more so felt like you were hinting that I should go back and take the same exact picture. I can't just do that.

Pugs · 12-14-2009, 05:43 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by Vicelord John

I didn't really feel you were attacking me, but more so felt like you were hinting that I should go back and take the same exact picture. I can't just do that.

Right on. We're good in my book, Brother.

12-13-2009, 08:14 PM	#4
Atlas77 I spend too much of my life on TPF! Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Ottawa, Ontario Posts: 654 My Photos Are OK to Edit Thanked 9 Times in 9 Posts My Gallery: (0)	My vote is for the second image, its much clearer and sharper, not to mention the lighting is way better. Should we go down to EXIF data comparison? __________________ ------------------------------------------------------------------ Nikon D90 ------------------------------------------------------------------ Nikon 18-70 f/3.5-4.5G ------------------------------------------------------------------ Nikon 50mm 1.8D (hoping for one soon!) ------------------------------------------------------------------

12-13-2009, 08:22 PM	#5
Pugs I spend too much of my life on TPF! Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Milwaukee, WI Posts: 926 My Photos Are NOT OK to Edit Thanked 37 Times in 34 Posts My Gallery: (0)	Second one is a wee-bit over-exposed on my monitor. I really can't say which body is "better" from the two pics because the lighting is different (three hours later in day, six months apart, etc...), the shutter speed/aperture completely different. The older pic didn't show the ISO rating, but I'd bet that's different, too. __________________ -Pugs Nikon D300: - Nikkor 18-55mm AF-S f/3.5-5.6 DX GII - ProMaster 28-80mm f/3.5-5.6 - Nikkor 50mm AF f/1.8 D - ProMaster 55-200mm AF f/4-5.6 LD Macro - Nikkor 70-300mm AF f/4-5.6 G - Sigma 70-300mm f/4-5.6 DL Macro Super Konica Autoreflex T2 & nT3 - Hexanon 50mm AF f/1.7 - Hexanon 52mm AF f/1.8 - Hexanon 100mm AF f/2.8 - Spiratone 135mm Auto Spira-Tel YS f/2.8 Last edited by Pugs; 12-13-2009 at 08:31 PM.

12-13-2009, 08:27 PM	#6
DScience TPF Junkie! Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Denver, CO Posts: 1,219 My Photos Are OK to Edit Thanked 19 Times in 18 Posts My Gallery: (0)	Second is sharper, but a little blown out __________________ My 365 project! Flickr Nikon, fast primes, and speedlights.

12-14-2009, 03:22 PM	#8
Vicelord John I spend too much of my life on TPF! Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Phoenix Posts: 344 My Photos Are OK to Edit Thanked 6 Times in 6 Posts My Gallery: (0)	Quote: Originally Posted by Pugs Second one is a wee-bit over-exposed on my monitor. I really can't say which body is "better" from the two pics because the lighting is different (three hours later in day, six months apart, etc...), the shutter speed/aperture completely different. The older pic didn't show the ISO rating, but I'd bet that's different, too. well it would be impossible to use the exact same settings on a different day. Short of buying another D100 and waiting until the same day next summer, this is the best it is going to get. I just wanted to get a feel for clarity of images. I'm sorry you read too much into it. __________________ D90 SB-600 50mm f1.8 18-55mm f3.5 70-300mm f4.0 055XDB + 804RC2

12-14-2009, 03:57 PM	#9
Pugs I spend too much of my life on TPF! Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Milwaukee, WI Posts: 926 My Photos Are NOT OK to Edit Thanked 37 Times in 34 Posts My Gallery: (0)	Quote: Originally Posted by Vicelord John Quote: Originally Posted by Pugs Second one is a wee-bit over-exposed on my monitor. I really can't say which body is "better" from the two pics because the lighting is different (three hours later in day, six months apart, etc...), the shutter speed/aperture completely different. The older pic didn't show the ISO rating, but I'd bet that's different, too. well it would be impossible to use the exact same settings on a different day. Short of buying another D100 and waiting until the same day next summer, this is the best it is going to get. I just wanted to get a feel for clarity of images. I'm sorry you read too much into it. Not reading too much into it. I'm just saying that this comparison is invalid in terms of comparing the two bodies. It's hard to read a person's "tone" over the Internet, but the "sorry you read too much into it" makes your response sound defensive. My intent wasn't to dig at you or put on the defense at all. I was merely pointing out something that I didn't know if you were aware of or not. I truly apologize if you felt that I was attacking you, or condescending to you, or anything else negative. I was trying to help not hinder. __________________ -Pugs Nikon D300: - Nikkor 18-55mm AF-S f/3.5-5.6 DX GII - ProMaster 28-80mm f/3.5-5.6 - Nikkor 50mm AF f/1.8 D - ProMaster 55-200mm AF f/4-5.6 LD Macro - Nikkor 70-300mm AF f/4-5.6 G - Sigma 70-300mm f/4-5.6 DL Macro Super Konica Autoreflex T2 & nT3 - Hexanon 50mm AF f/1.7 - Hexanon 52mm AF f/1.8 - Hexanon 100mm AF f/2.8 - Spiratone 135mm Auto Spira-Tel YS f/2.8

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12-13-2009, 06:23 PM	#1
Vicelord John I spend too much of my life on TPF! Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Phoenix Posts: 344 My Photos Are OK to Edit Thanked 6 Times in 6 Posts My Gallery: (0)	Comparison. Same lens, D100 vs. D90 your thoughts? I took this picture back in May with my D100, using a Sigma 70-300 and really liked it. It has been one of my favorite pictures I've taken since I started this hobby. Went back today (not in optimal conditions) and stood in the same spot with my D90. Same lens, waited for a train, and reproduced nearly the same shot. I'm wondering which shot looks better quality to everyone. I know which one I think, but I don't want to sway anyone. LOL! __________________ D90 SB-600 50mm f1.8 18-55mm f3.5 70-300mm f4.0 055XDB + 804RC2

12-13-2009, 07:44 PM	#2
vh5150 No longer a newbie, moving up! Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Gilbert, AZ Posts: 37 My Photos Are OK to Edit Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts My Gallery: (0)	I vote for the second shot. And that place looks very familiar. __________________ Nikon D70s Nikon 18-70 Nikon 70-300 NIkon 50mm 1.8 Tamron 28-70 2.8 SB-600

12-13-2009, 08:10 PM	#3
chip I spend too much of my life on TPF! Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Cypress, CA Posts: 359 My Photos Are OK to Edit Thanked 8 Times in 8 Posts My Gallery: (0)	I have a D100 also. For being such an old camera it really is still an excellent camera. It proves that 6MP is plenty for most applications and you really gain high ISO performance. Between the two pictures I like the first one better because of the plane in the sky.

12-13-2009, 08:29 PM	#7
im_jacobf No longer a newbie, moving up! Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Klamath Falls, Oregon Posts: 45 My Photos Are OK to Edit Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post My Gallery: (0)	I personally prefer the second image, mostly because it is sharper and more concise. I would have toned the exposure down some, however.

12-14-2009, 03:59 PM	#10
Sw1tchFX TPF Junkie! Join Date: May 2006 Location: Portland! Posts: 5,817 My Photos Are NOT OK to Edit Thanked 39 Times in 26 Posts My Gallery: (0)	first one, the airplane makes it. __________________ MyFlickr Quote: Originally Posted by no dogs dragon man! Well if it is lyk raining the cannons are really good for that but nikon is like all black so maybe good for sniperz?

12-14-2009, 04:04 PM	#11
IgsEMT TPF Junkie! Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: NYC Posts: 1,588 My Photos Are NOT OK to Edit Thanked 76 Times in 72 Posts My Gallery: (0)	Both images are different Other then 300mm, and same place, nothing else is similar - different settings, different ambient light. #1 I like the colors and general feel of the image more BUT it is very soft. #2 seems a bit more flat in terms of lighting but sharper. Hard to make an objective call here. Sorry. Quote: It proves that 6MP is plenty for most applications Amen! Many folks feel that MORE is better but as many who been shooting digital know that is isn't true. __________________ www.pictureperfectny.com

12-14-2009, 04:07 PM	#12
Vicelord John I spend too much of my life on TPF! Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Phoenix Posts: 344 My Photos Are OK to Edit Thanked 6 Times in 6 Posts My Gallery: (0)	Quote: Originally Posted by Pugs It's hard to read a person's "tone" over the Internet, but the "sorry you read too much into it" makes your response sound defensive. My intent wasn't to dig at you or put on the defense at all. I was merely pointing out something that I didn't know if you were aware of or not. I truly apologize if you felt that I was attacking you, or condescending to you, or anything else negative. I was trying to help not hinder. I didn't really feel you were attacking me, but more so felt like you were hinting that I should go back and take the same exact picture. I can't just do that. __________________ D90 SB-600 50mm f1.8 18-55mm f3.5 70-300mm f4.0 055XDB + 804RC2

12-14-2009, 05:43 PM	#13
Pugs I spend too much of my life on TPF! Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Milwaukee, WI Posts: 926 My Photos Are NOT OK to Edit Thanked 37 Times in 34 Posts My Gallery: (0)	Quote: Originally Posted by Vicelord John I didn't really feel you were attacking me, but more so felt like you were hinting that I should go back and take the same exact picture. I can't just do that. Right on. We're good in my book, Brother. __________________ -Pugs Nikon D300: - Nikkor 18-55mm AF-S f/3.5-5.6 DX GII - ProMaster 28-80mm f/3.5-5.6 - Nikkor 50mm AF f/1.8 D - ProMaster 55-200mm AF f/4-5.6 LD Macro - Nikkor 70-300mm AF f/4-5.6 G - Sigma 70-300mm f/4-5.6 DL Macro Super Konica Autoreflex T2 & nT3 - Hexanon 50mm AF f/1.7 - Hexanon 52mm AF f/1.8 - Hexanon 100mm AF f/2.8 - Spiratone 135mm Auto Spira-Tel YS f/2.8

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