Doll Face

alannahrose · 12-15-2009, 12:53 PM

This is one of my pictures in my portfolio for my first semester of photography school. If you're interested, the rest is posted on my blog- AlannahRosePhotography.blogspot.com. Any suggestions? =] I'll post the original if anyone wants.

**Big Mike** · 12-15-2009, 12:59 PM

The skin smoothing isn't doing it for me. I get that you were going for a smooth 'doll face'...but I think there could be a lot of improvements to your PP technique.

MrRamonG · 12-15-2009, 01:00 PM

I'd like to see the OG.

Derrel · 12-15-2009, 01:06 PM

Your lighting is pretty good, and the multiple catchlights from the small lights looks interesting and different. But I think Big Mike's really hit the crux of the matter--the PP on the shot just isn't working to advance the shot.

Big Mike BTW, posted a link to a really good tutorial on using Gaussian Blur and High Pass filter in combo for smoothing skin without a lot of hassles, and I'm going to repost the link here because I think the techniques in this tutorial would make your shot look much better.

Skin Retouching Tutorial Pt 2 - Photography Reviews, How-To, and Galleries of Digital Grin

Skin Retouching Tutorial Pt 2 - Page 2 - Photography Reviews, How-To, and Galleries of Digital Grin

Skin Retouching Tutorial Pt 2 - Page 3 - Photography Reviews, How-To, and Galleries of Digital Grin

alannahrose · 12-15-2009, 01:09 PM

Original-

c.cloudwalker · 12-15-2009, 01:15 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by Big Mike

The skin smoothing isn't doing it for me. I get that you were going for a smooth 'doll face'...but I think there could be a lot of improvements to your PP technique.

Agreed. It looks soft instead of smooth.

Other than that, I like the image. It makes me think of the movie "Cabaret" and I like that.

DerekSalem · 12-15-2009, 02:06 PM

I honestly can't look at it for more than a few seconds...creepy to me lol

but overall I'd say you probably hit what you were going for. Skin seems soft instead of smooth (like others have said), but I honestly think some of that might have been due to the makeup used. Try a slightly more shiny/reflective coating on her skin to make it look more plastic. Then it won't seem as soft but it will still be very smooth.

**Bitter Jeweler** · 12-15-2009, 02:28 PM

I think there are too many catchlights in the eyes.

**inTempus** · 12-15-2009, 04:33 PM

Deleted.

alannahrose · 12-15-2009, 04:44 PM

Thanks for the advice everyone. I actually spent a couple hours on this one. It was mostly very detailed work. I did the best with what I have learned so far in classes.

I would really prefer it if people didn't edit my pictures though. That's why I have it set to "My photos Are NOT OK to Edit."

And yes I did get the look I was trying to. I was going for very creepy and I didn't mind the rest of the face being out of focus because I wanted the attention to go to the eyes and lips. Thanks everyone.

12-15-2009, 12:53 PM	#1
alannahrose No longer a newbie, moving up! Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Oklahoma Posts: 51 My Photos Are NOT OK to Edit Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts My Gallery: (0)	Doll Face This is one of my pictures in my portfolio for my first semester of photography school. If you're interested, the rest is posted on my blog- AlannahRosePhotography.blogspot.com. Any suggestions? =] I'll post the original if anyone wants. Last edited by alannahrose; 12-15-2009 at 06:41 PM.

12-15-2009, 12:59 PM	#2
Big Mike I am Big, I am Mike Site Moderator Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Edmonton Posts: 23,187 My Photos Are NOT OK to Edit Thanked 329 Times in 302 Posts My Gallery: (94)	The skin smoothing isn't doing it for me. I get that you were going for a smooth 'doll face'...but I think there could be a lot of improvements to your PP technique. __________________ "The most important thing I have learned over the years is the difference between taking one's work seriously and taking one's self seriously. The first is imperative, and the second disastrous" Edmonton Wedding Photographer ==>Blog

12-15-2009, 01:15 PM	#6
c.cloudwalker TPF Junkie! Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: An American in Europe Posts: 2,839 My Photos Are NOT OK to Edit Thanked 111 Times in 97 Posts My Gallery: (0)	Quote: Originally Posted by Big Mike The skin smoothing isn't doing it for me. I get that you were going for a smooth 'doll face'...but I think there could be a lot of improvements to your PP technique. Agreed. It looks soft instead of smooth. Other than that, I like the image. It makes me think of the movie "Cabaret" and I like that. __________________ "Every child is an artist. The problem is how to remain an artist once you grow up." Pablo Picasso

12-15-2009, 02:06 PM	#7
DerekSalem I spend too much of my life on TPF! Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Cleveland, OH Posts: 337 My Photos Are OK to Edit Thanked 10 Times in 10 Posts My Gallery: (0)	I honestly can't look at it for more than a few seconds...creepy to me lol but overall I'd say you probably hit what you were going for. Skin seems soft instead of smooth (like others have said), but I honestly think some of that might have been due to the makeup used. Try a slightly more shiny/reflective coating on her skin to make it look more plastic. Then it won't seem as soft but it will still be very smooth. __________________ http://www.flickr.com/photos/DerekSalem Canon EOS 7D Canon EF 70-200 f/4L IS USM Canon EF 50mm f/1.8 II Tamron 17-50mm f/2.8 XR Di II VC

12-15-2009, 02:28 PM	#8
Bitter Jeweler *** Tool Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Cleveland, Ohio Posts: 3,212 My Photos Are OK to Edit** Thanked 258 Times in 216 Posts My Gallery: (0)	I think there are too many catchlights in the eyes. __________________ Posting photos in the General Gallery forum is like hanging prints in the basement...behind the furnace.

12-15-2009, 01:00 PM	#3
MrRamonG I spend too much of my life on TPF! Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Anaheim California Posts: 350 My Photos Are OK to Edit Thanked 9 Times in 8 Posts My Gallery: (0)	I'd like to see the OG.

12-15-2009, 01:06 PM	#4
Derrel TPF Junkie! Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: USA Posts: 4,956 My Photos Are OK to Edit Thanked 494 Times in 442 Posts My Gallery: (7)	Your lighting is pretty good, and the multiple catchlights from the small lights looks interesting and different. But I think Big Mike's really hit the crux of the matter--the PP on the shot just isn't working to advance the shot. Big Mike BTW, posted a link to a really good tutorial on using Gaussian Blur and High Pass filter in combo for smoothing skin without a lot of hassles, and I'm going to repost the link here because I think the techniques in this tutorial would make your shot look much better. Skin Retouching Tutorial Pt 2 - Photography Reviews, How-To, and Galleries of Digital Grin Skin Retouching Tutorial Pt 2 - Page 2 - Photography Reviews, How-To, and Galleries of Digital Grin Skin Retouching Tutorial Pt 2 - Page 3 - Photography Reviews, How-To, and Galleries of Digital Grin

12-15-2009, 01:09 PM	#5
alannahrose No longer a newbie, moving up! Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Oklahoma Posts: 51 My Photos Are NOT OK to Edit Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts My Gallery: (0)	Original-

12-15-2009, 04:33 PM	#9
inTempus Aut Concilio Aut Ense Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Indiana Posts: 3,541 My Photos Are OK to Edit Thanked 110 Times in 96 Posts My Gallery: (10)	Deleted. __________________ Model Mayhem \| flickr \| Digital Diffraction Blog Last edited by inTempus; 12-15-2009 at 05:13 PM.

12-15-2009, 04:44 PM	#10
alannahrose No longer a newbie, moving up! Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Oklahoma Posts: 51 My Photos Are NOT OK to Edit Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts My Gallery: (0)	Thanks for the advice everyone. I actually spent a couple hours on this one. It was mostly very detailed work. I did the best with what I have learned so far in classes. I would really prefer it if people didn't edit my pictures though. That's why I have it set to "My photos Are NOT OK to Edit." And yes I did get the look I was trying to. I was going for very creepy and I didn't mind the rest of the face being out of focus because I wanted the attention to go to the eyes and lips. Thanks everyone. __________________ All Equipment- Nikon D300s Nikkor 50 MM Sigma 18-250 Sunpak Flash PZ42X Promaster 41" 5 in 1 Reflector My Blog

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