doubling revenues by shooting stills / video simultaneously?

foundingfilms · 12-12-2009, 01:00 PM

hey there--i am trying to make some decisions regaridng holiday gifts and i am divided on this solution here combining the best of the canon 5d/7d with the hv30/hv40/hfs11/hfs100?:

what's your take?
practical way 2 combine the best of the canon 5d/7d with the hv30/hv40/hfs11/hfs100? ? thanks!
it can shoot stills/video simultaneously... and gives you a lot of that automatic camera-shake--haha--if that's what you need.
but does it make sense?
is this the best way to shoot both hd video and stills video?
can it help double my friend's revenues? or at least enhance them? by what %?

PhotoXopher · 12-12-2009, 01:28 PM

Pick one... master it, double your revenue that way.

GeneralBenson · 12-12-2009, 03:35 PM

The camera shake would be ghastly. I agree with above. Pick one, or atleast one at a time, and be good at it.

c.cloudwalker · 12-12-2009, 03:48 PM

Hard to imagine anything worthwhile coming from the video camera and I can't help but think that it would get in the way of the photography which could mean losing photo quality.

Making a simple bracket like the one in the image is easy enough. Give it a shot and tell us what happens when you try shooting photos in portrait orientation.

**KmH** · 12-12-2009, 06:05 PM

That was my first thought too....Hummmm, what happens in portrait orientation?

My second thought was.....why buy stills when I can have the video and do screen shots?

Is that Coronado with Point Loma in the background?

c.cloudwalker · 12-12-2009, 06:11 PM

This thing might just be a joke.

I use two hands to hold a camera and I have a feeling the video cam would get in the way of that.

PhotoXopher · 12-12-2009, 08:23 PM

Just use duct tape, it'll give the same impression and it's a lot cheaper.

Joseph S. Wisniewski · 12-13-2009, 09:56 AM

You have posted this same spam on photo.net, dpReview, amazon, photostocking, dgrin, wopuler, photography on the net, you name it.

Your product makes no sense.
* Holding a heavy object (a pro DSLR with lens, bolted to a camcorder) in the way you picture could be harmful, it may strain the flexor and extensor muscles of the right wrist and compress the radioulnar joint.
* Pros rotate the camera from horizontal to vertical frequently.
* If you hold the still camera properly, in a strain reducing, vibration reducing two hand grip with still camera to your face, the video camera bangs your chest.
* By hanging the video camera so that its lens center line is a foot below the still camera, you give it an unflattering viewpoint, looking up people's noses!
* You've placed the video camera at a high motion point, far from the suspension point, making the opposite of a stabilization system like a glidecam or steady cam. Your system will increase vibration (especially translational vibration, which a camera's built-in stabilization system cannot compensate for).

bhphotography · 12-13-2009, 11:34 AM

not quite sure how that would work when you switch to portrait orientation! I have been pitching stills / video for commercial work so that clients can now have video on their sites. I would shoot the still / video separate

Joseph S. Wisniewski · 12-17-2009, 09:37 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by bhphotography

not quite sure how that would work when you switch to portrait orientation!

It doesn't. On Elliot McGurken's site (that's "foundingfilms" real name) there are 33 pictures of a model that is supposed to be using a DSLR with a camcorder hanging under it from his bracket. Nine of those 33 pictures are in portrait orientation.

Yes, even the promoter of the "hang a camcorder under your DSLR" bracket couldn't have gotten through his shoot using his own bracket, because photographers really do need to shoot a lot in portrait orientation.

Moonb007 · 12-21-2009, 03:01 PM

I am not sure why you would want this...they are not the same medium

TheGenericusername · 12-22-2009, 12:27 AM

ORR buy a rebel T1i like me and record in 1080p and take stills at the same time fyi its completely for fun and never would a professional use two mediums in such a format. Your a PHOTOGRAPHER not a VpIhDoEtOgRpher

erzyhazel · 12-30-2009, 09:17 PM

you should pick one to focused with.. whether it photography or videography... more experience will positively impact to your revenue..

12-12-2009, 01:00 PM	#1
foundingfilms TPF Noob! Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 8 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts My Gallery: (0)	doubling revenues by shooting stills / video simultaneously? hey there--i am trying to make some decisions regaridng holiday gifts and i am divided on this solution here combining the best of the canon 5d/7d with the hv30/hv40/hfs11/hfs100?: what's your take? practical way 2 combine the best of the canon 5d/7d with the hv30/hv40/hfs11/hfs100? ? thanks! it can shoot stills/video simultaneously... and gives you a lot of that automatic camera-shake--haha--if that's what you need. but does it make sense? is this the best way to shoot both hd video and stills video? can it help double my friend's revenues? or at least enhance them? by what %?

12-12-2009, 01:28 PM	#2
PhotoXopher TPF Junkie! Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 3,084 My Photos Are NOT OK to Edit Thanked 85 Times in 85 Posts Blog Entries: 2 My Gallery: (0)	Pick one... master it, double your revenue that way. __________________ I am the french fry in a box of onion rings. Click to see the world through one crappy lens.

12-12-2009, 03:48 PM	#4
c.cloudwalker TPF Junkie! Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Europe Posts: 1,879 My Photos Are NOT OK to Edit Thanked 64 Times in 61 Posts My Gallery: (0)	Hard to imagine anything worthwhile coming from the video camera and I can't help but think that it would get in the way of the photography which could mean losing photo quality. Making a simple bracket like the one in the image is easy enough. Give it a shot and tell us what happens when you try shooting photos in portrait orientation. __________________ "Every child is an artist. The problem is how to remain an artist once you grow up." Pablo Picasso

12-12-2009, 06:05 PM	#5
KmH Image Maker Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Iowa Posts: 4,905 My Photos Are NOT OK to Edit Thanked 214 Times in 205 Posts My Gallery: (0)	That was my first thought too....Hummmm, what happens in portrait orientation? My second thought was.....why buy stills when I can have the video and do screen shots? Is that Coronado with Point Loma in the background? __________________ » » » » » » » » » » Price Update 3/14/10: Nikon D60 w/grip « « « « « « « « « « « « « Sale ends 3/21/10 - price updated 3/14/10: Nikon AF-S 70-300 mm VR G » » » Keith. . . .NAPP member - referral link: https://www.photoshopuser.com/signup/?aid=luhgxq&code=friend

12-12-2009, 06:11 PM	#6
c.cloudwalker TPF Junkie! Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Europe Posts: 1,879 My Photos Are NOT OK to Edit Thanked 64 Times in 61 Posts My Gallery: (0)	This thing might just be a joke. I use two hands to hold a camera and I have a feeling the video cam would get in the way of that. __________________ "Every child is an artist. The problem is how to remain an artist once you grow up." Pablo Picasso

12-12-2009, 03:35 PM	#3
GeneralBenson I spend too much of my life on TPF! Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Boulder, CO Posts: 693 My Photos Are NOT OK to Edit Thanked 12 Times in 12 Posts My Gallery: (0)	The camera shake would be ghastly. I agree with above. Pick one, or atleast one at a time, and be good at it.

12-12-2009, 08:23 PM	#7
PhotoXopher TPF Junkie! Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 3,084 My Photos Are NOT OK to Edit Thanked 85 Times in 85 Posts Blog Entries: 2 My Gallery: (0)	Just use duct tape, it'll give the same impression and it's a lot cheaper. __________________ I am the french fry in a box of onion rings. Click to see the world through one crappy lens.

12-13-2009, 09:56 AM	#8
Joseph S. Wisniewski TPF Noob! Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Michigan, USA Posts: 2 My Photos Are OK to Edit Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts My Gallery: (0)	You have posted this same spam on photo.net, dpReview, amazon, photostocking, dgrin, wopuler, photography on the net, you name it. Your product makes no sense. * Holding a heavy object (a pro DSLR with lens, bolted to a camcorder) in the way you picture could be harmful, it may strain the flexor and extensor muscles of the right wrist and compress the radioulnar joint. * Pros rotate the camera from horizontal to vertical frequently. * If you hold the still camera properly, in a strain reducing, vibration reducing two hand grip with still camera to your face, the video camera bangs your chest. * By hanging the video camera so that its lens center line is a foot below the still camera, you give it an unflattering viewpoint, looking up people's noses! * You've placed the video camera at a high motion point, far from the suspension point, making the opposite of a stabilization system like a glidecam or steady cam. Your system will increase vibration (especially translational vibration, which a camera's built-in stabilization system cannot compensate for). Last edited by Joseph S. Wisniewski; 12-17-2009 at 09:39 PM.

12-13-2009, 11:34 AM	#9
bhphotography I spend too much of my life on TPF! Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Ottawa, Ontario Posts: 274 My Photos Are NOT OK to Edit Thanked 4 Times in 4 Posts My Gallery: (0)	not quite sure how that would work when you switch to portrait orientation! I have been pitching stills / video for commercial work so that clients can now have video on their sites. I would shoot the still / video separate __________________ BH Photography Ottawa Wedding Photographer Ottawa Boudoir Photographer

12-17-2009, 09:37 PM	#10
Joseph S. Wisniewski TPF Noob! Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Michigan, USA Posts: 2 My Photos Are OK to Edit Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts My Gallery: (0)	Quote: Originally Posted by bhphotography not quite sure how that would work when you switch to portrait orientation! It doesn't. On Elliot McGurken's site (that's "foundingfilms" real name) there are 33 pictures of a model that is supposed to be using a DSLR with a camcorder hanging under it from his bracket. Nine of those 33 pictures are in portrait orientation. Yes, even the promoter of the "hang a camcorder under your DSLR" bracket couldn't have gotten through his shoot using his own bracket, because photographers really do need to shoot a lot in portrait orientation.

12-21-2009, 03:01 PM	#11
Moonb007 Been spending a lot of time on here! Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Houston Posts: 199 My Photos Are NOT OK to Edit Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts My Gallery: (0)	I am not sure why you would want this...they are not the same medium __________________ Personal Website \| Personal Blog \| Facebook Fan Page Sites listed I have made some type of sale on, good luck: Dreamstime DepositPhotos 123RF iStockPhoto BigStockPhoto ShutterStock

12-22-2009, 12:27 AM	#12
TheGenericusername No longer a newbie, moving up! Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 39 My Photos Are NOT OK to Edit Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts My Gallery: (0)	ORR buy a rebel T1i like me and record in 1080p and take stills at the same time fyi its completely for fun and never would a professional use two mediums in such a format. Your a PHOTOGRAPHER not a VpIhDoEtOgRpher

12-30-2009, 09:17 PM	#13
erzyhazel No longer a newbie, moving up! Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: indonesia Posts: 29 My Photos Are OK to Edit Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts My Gallery: (0)	you should pick one to focused with.. whether it photography or videography... more experience will positively impact to your revenue..

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