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01-03-2012 10:33 AM
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Still a newbie, can't move up!
Cindy doesn't really give you the freedom to shoot or what? If I were to do a 2011 "best" shots, I would not fill 50% of it full of detail shots. Details shots are pretty much filler to make album or collages pretty. It is important... but I would not showcase it.YMMV.
BUT... the skin looks much better on your processing.
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Originally Posted by
Schwettylens
Cindy doesn't really give you the freedom to shoot or what? If I were to do a 2011 "best" shots, I would not fill 50% of it full of detail shots. Details shots are pretty much filler to make album or collages pretty. It is important... but I would not showcase it.YMMV.
BUT... the skin looks much better on your processing.
She does...I just happen to like detail shots. Thanks for the feedback.
The best of all things is to learn. Money can be lost or stolen, health or strength may fail, but what you have committed to your mind is yours forever.
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Nice work Kerb; I like all of them except #12; someone ought to give her a good, swift boot in the ass for putting her dirty shoe on that fine chrome!
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#1 what an angle for the bride hand-off. Wow. It's my favorite because we don't get too many from this angle. We're usually at ground zero.
I particularly like more exposure generally but what I find really underexposed are 4, 5, 16 and 23. In addition 16 I know you probably had to go open up your aperture because of the low ambient but I'd like to see a clearer image of the father and bride.
Though the ring shots are great, I think I would love to see more OCF or creative bounce flash. They're a bit flat. You can easily do it with ring shots as relocating them to the ideal settings or location is cake.
I think this is the first time I've seen any of your images. Generally I like them. They're natural and not over processed - if done consistently this is actually harder to do in my opinion as one can get easily carried away and over process. Like I mentioned above, I think it can use some creative lighting and more lighting on some. Good job, looks like you had a good year.
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very impressive collection!
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Originally Posted by
tirediron
Nice work Kerb; I like all of them except #12; someone ought to give her a good, swift boot in the ass for putting her dirty shoe on that fine chrome!
We cleaned her shoe first...

Originally Posted by
camz
#1 what an angle for the bride hand-off. Wow. It's my favorite because we don't get too many from this angle. We're usually at ground zero.
I particularly like more exposure generally but what I find really underexposed are 4, 5, 16 and 23. In addition 16 I know you probably had to go open up your aperture because of the low ambient but I'd like to see a clearer image of the father and bride.
Though the ring shots are great, I think I would love to see more OCF or creative bounce flash. They're a bit flat. You can easily do it with ring shots as relocating them to the ideal settings or location is cake.
I think this is the first time I've seen any of your images. Generally I like them. They're natural and not over processed - if done consistently this is actually harder to do in my opinion as one can get easily carried away and over process. Like I mentioned above, I think it can use some creative lighting and more lighting on some. Good job, looks like you had a good year.
Thanks for the detailed feedback.

Originally Posted by
kousPhoto
very impressive collection!
Thanks.
The best of all things is to learn. Money can be lost or stolen, health or strength may fail, but what you have committed to your mind is yours forever.
--George
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They are all beautiful. 13 and 35 are probably my favorites. I love the detail shots as well! First time I've seen your work - its about time. I think you definitely captured some of those perfect moments that a bride/groom wouldn't want to forget!
Hope 2012 is a great year for you!!
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Originally Posted by
MTVision
They are all beautiful. 13 and 35 are probably my favorites. I love the detail shots as well! First time I've seen your work - its about time. I think you definitely captured some of those perfect moments that a bride/groom wouldn't want to forget!
Hope 2012 is a great year for you!!
Thanks, yeah, I guess I don't really post that often. This forum isn't the most user friendly when it comes to posting a lot of photos but I've been meaning to make this thread for about a month now. Finally got around to it.
Thanks for the feedback.
I'll try to post more in 2012. I really need to get better about cataloging and editing my photos. I have tens of thousands just sitting in random folders and hard drives that I've never processed. We'll call it my 2012 resolution to get better about it.
Last edited by Kerbouchard; 01-03-2012 at 09:40 PM.
The best of all things is to learn. Money can be lost or stolen, health or strength may fail, but what you have committed to your mind is yours forever.
--George
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My CC as requested. I already told you why I think you shouldnt put this many detail shots on your "best of 2011" thread.

Originally Posted by
Kerbouchard
Some of my favorites from 2011.
1.
Good. I would burn the people on the top a little bit. They are too bright. OR you can maybe add graduated filter on LR.
2.
Crop it better. Seeing someone's finger on the right is just weird.
3.
I personally rather see a lot wider shot where you can see people are watching them like they are the main attraction.
4.
Dirty sensor bottom left. Cant explain it.. just not enough wow factor on the shot.
5.
Same as above
6.
It may be a special moment.. but you only put her by her self. Shoot wider so viewers understand what is going on. She looks retarded with double chins. This for sure is not a good photo unless you collage it with different angle shots. This definitely wont make it to my "best" thread.
7.
Nice pose. Someone is walking in the background. Mix lighting is very visible. Direct flash is very visible.
8.
Detail shot again but not big enough.
9.
Main diamond is not in focus
10.

Snapshotish. Most of the people look goofy (probably on purpose but most viewers wont know that). Nice speaker on the right.
11.
Black and white treatment, crop tighter, put the top cutting his forehead, the bottom right under the guest book, put her face right on 1/3 from the right.
12.
I dont understand the square crop. Clone out the little vegetation sticking out from the hood.
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The car is very dominant on this photo. Then you really need to make the headlight in focus as well.
14.
Not bad.. the lighting can be improved.
15.
Yellow diamond, yellow platinum
16.
I have ccd this.
17.
Not wide enough IMO.
18.

Yeah.. she is cute.. doesnt really tell me anything. Definitely wont put it in my best of 2011.
19.
A lot better than the last one. Need wider shot though. Show his feet would be nice. He is dancing after all.
20.
Definitely not best of 2011 material.
21.
Definitely not 2011 material. Boring.
22.
Why flash it? Show the ambiance of the whole room.
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underexposed. Mixed lighting is very visible.
24.
Detail shot again....
25.
Great.. someone's hand (not sure whose) is pouring a glass of champagne. Definitely not best of 2011 material.
26.
Tacky
27.
another ring shot in front of flowers. I see the pattern here
28.
Detail shot again.. direct lighting.. boring.
29.
Finally.. something interesting.
30.
Definitely not best of 2011 material.
31.

Same of above
32.

What is that? Algae on the rock?
33.
Nice bicep on the right. Who is that? Cindy's husband? He must works out.
34.
Not best of 2011 material
35.
Too tight.. You guys really need to learn not to be in each other's shot.
C&C always welcome. Hope you guys have a great New Year...
Regards,
George
Really man.. you are showing your "best" shots and you are showing mostly detail shots? I thought you were a wedding photographer?
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Originally Posted by
Schwettylens
My CC as requested. I already told you why I think you shouldnt put this many detail shots on your "best of 2011" thread.
...Really man.. you are showing your "best" shots and you are showing mostly detail shots? I thought you were a wedding photographer?
While I agree with some of your critique points, I think that last line is a bit harsh.
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Originally Posted by
tirediron

Originally Posted by
Schwettylens
My CC as requested. I already told you why I think you shouldnt put this many detail shots on your "best of 2011" thread.
...Really man.. you are showing your "best" shots and you are showing mostly detail shots? I thought you were a wedding photographer?
While I agree with some of your critique points, I think that last line is a bit harsh.
I don't mind harsh...and Robin, no, I'm not a wedding photographer. I run the Engineering department for a Fortune 50 company.
I do, however, sometimes assist in weddings...you know, like taking detail shots...
The best of all things is to learn. Money can be lost or stolen, health or strength may fail, but what you have committed to your mind is yours forever.
--George
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Originally Posted by
Schwettylens
Harsh but true.
Well I think you're being overly critical here... You've found something wrong with 34/35 photos. With this type of hair splitting and nit-picking, it's not productive. In fact it's so counter-productive I have no choice but to critique your critique (Well, some of it anyway)

Originally Posted by
Schwettylens
My CC as requested. I already told you why I think you shouldnt put this many detail shots on your "best of 2011" thread.

Originally Posted by
Kerbouchard
Some of my favorites from 2011.
1.
Good. I would burn the people on the top a little bit. They are too bright. OR you can maybe add graduated filter on LR.
fair enough
2.
Crop it better. Seeing someone's finger on the right is just weird
agreed
3.
I personally rather see a lot wider shot where you can see people are watching them like they are the main attraction.
this is a great bride & groom shot with a lot of detail, excellent lighting, and an intimate moment captured
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Dirty sensor bottom left. Cant explain it.. just not enough wow factor on the shot
dirty sensor easily cloned in PP if he caught it, which he didn't. It seems the focus is soft on the center diamond.
5.
Same as above
poor composition
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It may be a special moment.. but you only put her by her self. Shoot wider so viewers understand what is going on. She looks retarded with double chins. This for sure is not a good photo unless you collage it with different angle shots. This definitely wont make it to my "best" thread.
The bride may not be flattered by this shot but she may want to remember the moment. And this is a good capture of her reaction and the moment.
7.
Nice pose. Someone is walking in the background. Mix lighting is very visible. Direct flash is very visible.
Pose is good, background person is distracting. agreed.
8.
Detail shot again but not big enough.
Good shot of the ring and natural hand pose.
9.
Main diamond is not in focus
Agreed
10.

Snapshotish. Most of the people look goofy (probably on purpose but most viewers wont know that). Nice speaker on the rig
The impressive part is no one is looking at the camera.
11.
Black and white treatment, crop tighter, put the top cutting his forehead, the bottom right under the guest book, put her face right on 1/3 from the right.
Great image as it stands. Good DOF, nice moment captured with the daughter peeking through the arms. Nice colors and textures.
12.
I dont understand the square crop. Clone out the little vegetation sticking out from the hood.
unnatural pose to me, not a huge fan of this one
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The car is very dominant on this photo. Then you really need to make the headlight in focus as well.
Headlights are irrelevant here the DOF is suitable and the grooms band is in focus. However, again the focus is missed on the center diamond and more attractive lighting could be used to give the diamonds a glimmer.
14.
Not bad.. the lighting can be improved.
Colors are good, lighting is fine
15.
Yellow diamond, yellow platinum
Agreed
16.
I have ccd this.
Groom watching father and brides dance, but a little on the underexposed side. Nice concept, I like it.
17.
Not wide enough IMO.
Plenty wide. Great moment. Good DOF, good lighting.
18.

Yeah.. she is cute.. doesnt really tell me anything. Definitely wont put it in my best of 2011.
People really like these type of shots because they are often close to the kids. Gives you a nice aura of the purple and magenta hues going on there.
19.
A lot better than the last one. Need wider shot though. Show his feet would be nice. He is dancing after all.
Chopping off his legs is weird, agreed.
20.
Definitely not best of 2011 material.
Not much to comment on here
21.
Definitely not 2011 material. Boring
I'd rather see you much closer or on the other side of the bridge and groom. Looks like that is where the natural light is coming from anyway.
22.
Why flash it? Show the ambiance of the whole room.
It's not bad, but the composition isn't the greatest.
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underexposed. Mixed lighting is very visible.
Bump the exposure. I like this shot and it looks like you nailed focus.
24.
Detail shot again....
I think focus on the diamond is missed again, be careful about that in the future
25.
Great.. someone's hand (not sure whose) is pouring a glass of champagne. Definitely not best of 2011 material
Not a lot to comment on
26.
Tacky
Highly Disagree. This a creative and nice shot that accentuates the rings. However, again i'm concerned there is more focus on the right birds eye than the brides ring.
27.
another ring shot in front of flowers. I see the pattern he
The diamond is in focus. Hooray! The flowers that are white have a yellowish cast to them.
28.
Detail shot again.. direct lighting.. boring.
It's fine, not a standout shot by any means.
29.
Finally.. something interesting
Creative. Good improv.
30.
Definitely not best of 2011 material.
Not much going on here.
31.

Same of above
Women are crazy about shoes so I think you have a winner here. Good DOF too.
32.

What is that? Algae on the rock?
Lighting on the diamonds are poor. I think your focus is ok, but lighting is not too good.
33.
Nice bicep on the right. Who is that? Cindy's husband? He must works out.
Agreed. hug the crop
34.
Not best of 2011 material
I'd like to see a much tighter crop here
35.
Too tight.. You guys really need to learn not to be in each other's shot.
He's right, either clone out or throw away. Expressions are nice on the viewers but they are all but cut off.
C&C always welcome. Hope you guys have a great New Year...
Regards,
George
Really man.. you are showing your "best" shots and you are showing mostly detail shots? I thought you were a wedding photographer?
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Originally Posted by
Kerbouchard
I don't mind harsh...and Robin, no, I'm not a wedding photographer. I run the Engineering department for a Fortune 50 company.
I do, however, sometimes assist in weddings...you know, like taking detail shots...
That is the lamest excuse ever. Really man... I cant wait to assist 2 weddings in a couple of weeks. I think 2nd shooting is where you can really shine because you are not worried as much with the "must shots". Sure this isnt your main job, but you were hired to be a wedding photographer. Photography isnt my main job either. I wont use me being an engineer as an excuse though. Hopefully I can walk the talk. Really.. I cant wait to 2nd shoot again.
Last edited by Schwettylens; 01-04-2012 at 12:54 PM.