10D - Tamron and Leica Digilux2

danalec99 · Mar 15, 2004

I did not mean that I was buying a 80/1.8 this instant.

Would want to read the book first before I do anything else. But, does he talk about digital?

The book is out of stock at B&N online. Need to check out the brick and mortar B&N this eve.

markc · Mar 15, 2004

danalec99 said:
Would want to read the book first before I do anything else. But, does he talk about digital? [/color]

Not really, but most of what he talks about applies to both digital and film. Digital cameras even use the same ISO ratings as film cameras do, so if he mentions 800 speed film, he also means a digital set to 800 ISO.

danalec99 · Mar 15, 2004

Thanks!

Digital Matt · Mar 15, 2004

You could always save a few hundred $'s and get the 300d, which has a few less options, but plenty to satisfy your creativity, and give room to grow. I have one, and I love it. Don't forget to factor in the added costs when going digital, like an extra battery and memory cards, possibly a card reader, a tripod, the lens(es).

The 10D is $1500 alone, and after buying yourself an extra battery and a 512mb card, (I would even recommend a 1g card), your looking at around $1700. The 300D is $1000 with the kit lens, and you could get out the door for less than $1300 with enough accessories to last you, including memory, another lens, and extra battery.

Just something to keep in mind.

danalec99 · Mar 15, 2004

You could always save a few hundred $'s and get the 300d, which has a few less options,

Could you be elaborate on the terms 'less options'?

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Digital Matt · Mar 15, 2004

Go to http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/canoneos300d/ and do some reading.

You can get in-depth reviews of both cameras there. If you are a beginner, I'm sure the 300D is more than enough control for you.

danalec99 · Mar 15, 2004

Thanks, I see the comparison between 300D and 10D.

But, could you put that in plain english (for a layman) what the difference actually is??

thanks

Digital Matt · Mar 15, 2004

You don't have customizable buttons with the 300D, and no flash compensation. Also, no second curtain flash, which means on a long exposure, when firing the flash, it will only fire at the beginning of the shot, (first curtain), as opposed to the end (second curtain). On the 10D you have both. I'm not a fan of flash photography myself. I hardly use it.

Your metering is limited when you are in the creative modes. If you shoot in Manual mode, you are stuck with center weighted average metering, but I find that's it's no problem, once you get used to the meter.

You get a few more frames per second on the 10D, as well as a larger buffer. Do you forsee yourself shooting lots of pics real fast, like sports photography? The 300D has a 4 shot buffer vs 9 on the 10D.

The 10D has a magnesium alloy body, for sturdier construction, vs a plastic body on the 300D, but let me tell you, the 300D is not a toy. It is plenty sturdy.

After all that, I can cite one advantage that the 300D has over the 10D, besides price. The EFS 18-55mm lens, which is only available for the 300D, which gives you a true wide angle lens, (the kit lens) for only $100. You have a 1.6x Field of View crop, because the image sensor in the camera is 1.6x smaller than a 35mm negative. So you have to multiply the focal lengths of all your lenses by 1.6. This means that your normal 28-80mm wide angle tele lens is a 44.8 - 128mm, not so wide angle. The 18-55mm lens gives you a 28-88mm lens on the 300D. It's not the greatest lens canon makes, (does suffer from barrel distortion, which is easily corrected in PS though), it is a pretty sharp lens for $100, and your best alternative for a cheap wide angle zoom.

I hope that made sense. That was a mouthfull.

danalec99 · Mar 15, 2004

Thanks a lot for the valuable information.

It sure was a mouthful

danalec99 · Mar 15, 2004

Which would be the next level, after 300D/10D ?

Is it 1D?

Also, which is the best school in NY (or tristate) for photography?
OR would you rather prefer self teaching?