12bit Vs 14bit RAW Files

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Should I shoot 14bit or 12bit RAW?

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  1. timarp000

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    Obviously the 14bit file will be better than the 12bit. But by how much? What are the differences? Is there any noticeable difference at all? Which one should I shoot? I really dont understand the various types of RAW files. Can someone explain to me?


     
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    What will you be shooting? Is it anything that really needs to extra 1fps?

    If not, shoot in 14bit.
     
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    I shoot macro and wildlife! Hence i need fast shutter speeds. Im choosing between the D7000 and D7100 and this slower 5fps is actually making me consider the D7000 over the D7100 as it is also $400 cheaper!
     
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    I would never consider shooting at anything less than the maximum resolution and color depth that my camera is capable of. I can always down-sample or resize it when necessary, but I can never add what isn't there if I need it.
     
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    Burst mode at any fps rate is not often used for Macro or wildlife.

    Why do you think you need to shoot in burst mode?
     
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    I use burst mode while shooting flying birds and fast moving animals.
    Using burst in macro is just a habit that i have developed as when i shoot flowers they keep moving on a windy day so i use burst mode usuall 3 shots at a time to capture the subject perfectly in the frame
     
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    Can anyone tell me the difference between Lossy 14bit and Lossless 14bit?

    Is lossy 14bit better than 12bit lossless?
     
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    Well... the 14 bit will be better by 2 bits =P

    Seriously, it's a mathematical thing that you don't need example shots for. 2 bits = 4 values of lightness for every 1 in the 12 bit file.

    Thus, you can stretch a 14 bit image 4 times as far without banding. If you never encounter banding in the 12 bit with your editing style, and thus do not find yourself needing to stretch something 4x as far, then it will be not any more useful to you. If you do encounter banding with 12 bit, then 14 bit will help (some kinds of extreme or many step editing might make this useful. For instance, my homemade lenses are so low contrast from internal reflections and lack of coating that they only use up like 5% of the dynamic range of my camera. I have to stretch them so much that 14 bit probably actually helps me avoid issues)

    No, nobody can tell you that without knowing just how lossy the lossy one is. Also, jpegs don't just remove data evenly across the spectrum when they are lossy. They nonlinearly remove the data that humans have trouble seeing FIRST, making this a very complicated and "it depends on what you're doing" question anyway.
     
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    What is the difference between 14bit lossless and 14bit lossy?
     

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