30 St. Mary Axe (or ...boy do I need a TSE lens)

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  1. lostprophet

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    As I don't have a Canon 24mm TSE lens I have to make do with my Sigma 12-24 and shoot w-i-d-e and play about correcting the photo in PS, at least until the Lens Fairy pays me a visit

    Finished shot is at the bottom


    The original shot
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    Then using the perspective control in PS I dragged the top corners out
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    Then using the scale control I made the image taller
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    Wasn't happy with the colour so made it black and white

    Well its not perfect but I'm fairly happy with it

    CLICK FOR HIGH RES

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  2. Becky

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    I wasn't so fussed earlier, as I know its a tricky fecker to photograph, but you didn't half pull it out of the bag in the end... looks awesome...
     
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    Andy,

    You've done a great job on the original. Can I just suggest one thing? When you have vertical coverage to spare, frame so that the building is near the top of the frame - ie aim to keep the back of the camera as near to vertical as possible. With a 12 mm lens you will be able to do anything architecturally* that the 24 mm TS lens can do, it will only need enlarging more.

    *in terms of perspective - the tilt is hardly ever necessary or useful with architecture.

    Best,
    Helen
     
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    cheers for that, I better remember that next time up London
     
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    I aim to please :biggrin:
     
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    Sorry to thread jack Andy...

    Is this really the case? Surely the whole point of the tilt-shift lens is to avoid the tapering/converging vertical effect produced when photographing tall buildings with a wide angle lens? I always thought the vertical shift was used while the camera body could be kept parallel to the building and therefore you don't get the converging verticals by having the camera pointing upwards? I see what you mean about framing lower to keep the camera as parallel to the building as possible, but I still thought that the tilt/shift was generally regarded as pretty useful for architecture. Though maybe my understanding is muddled...?
     
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    Useful, but not necessary. Lots of times the effect neither adds nor detracts. It's a personal preference in most cases.
     
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    I get that, but technically speaking surely they're extremely useful?
     
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    It isn't the angle of coverage of the lens that causes convergence, it is the angle the back makes to the vertical, as you say. If the angle of view of the lens is wide enough to get the whole building in without tilting the camera from the vertical, then you don't need to shift it. All you gain by using a longer, shifting lens is magnification - you don't have to crop the bottom out of the picture. Tilt is rarely of benefit, and is often detrimental, in architectural photography.

    Shift is a benefit, but it may not be essential especially if you aren't enlarging the image to the limit.

    Best,
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    Hmmm interesting, thanks for the response!
     
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    maybe I'll order another TSE lens at work and 'borrow' it one weekend :lol:
     
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    nice end result and Helen's description of getting around the TS issue is spot on....if the space is very tight then a TS becomes more useful.
     

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