Aayria
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I have a story to share
I finally decided to venture out yesterday to the ONLY local camera shop in my area and take a look at what they had. Up until now, I've only focused on reading reviews, studying, and reading what people here have to say about the different cameras and lenses.
I decided that, in my head at least, I wanted most to work towards using a D700 with a 24-70mm and a 70-200mm 2.8 as my primary lenses. So, I asked if I could take a look at them while I was at the store.
First, there were two gentlemen at the shop, one in his late 20s and one in his mid 50's or so.. I had my 6 year old son with me, and we were greeted by the younger of the two.
He asked what I used currently, and I said I just have the D5000 and primarily use my 50mm 1.4 . His reply?
"Oh the D5000! That one has AMAZING ISO performance!"
"uh.. wha? I get noise at 800 ISO, sometimes lower..." I replied
He then explained that well, relative to the grain you used to get with 800 ISO film cameras, the D5000 was awesome.
Then, he asks if I've considered what camera body I want to upgrade to. I ask to see the D700.
"Why would you want to see that? I have this D300 here that is great and it's all you'd need..."
"Well..the D300 is a crop sensor, and I'd like to pair my camera with the 24-70 on a full frame.."
So he tries to convince me that nobody "needs" a full frame camera, and that all he uses is the D300, it's a great camera! He also says that crop sensors are the "future" of photography.
He then pulls out the 18-200mm zoom lens, stops down to 3.5 at its widest, 5.6 at its longest length. He tries to convince me I'd be just as well off getting THAT lens with the D300 as I would with the 24-70 on the D700. I explain to him that I want a good low light, sharp, performance lens for doing weddings down the road.. That it's important to me that I come as best prepared as possible, with what I am confident is the best equipment I can afford- this includes (to me) a FULL frame camera, and one of the standards in wedding lenses ... Stopping down to AT least 2.8.
I then hear the older gentlmen snicker at this other guy replies "man.. you must read a LOT of reviews and forums."
He then says "this 18-200mm zoom is awesome, you'd only need ONE lens, and you could use a crop sensor camera. Really, tons of wedding photographers love this lens, why don't you???"
"It doesn't stop down to 2.8..."
"Well. you don't NEED that extra blurry depth of field.."
"Maybe not always, but I like it, and I want the ability to perform in LOW LIGHT." ........ "so.. um.. could I take a look at the 24-70 mm 2.8?"
"We don't have that one in stock."
"How about the 70-200mm 2.8?"
He then pulls out this MASSIVE lens. I mean, sure I expected it to be big, but it was HEAVY. I really thought this was *THE* lens I'd want to work towards, but I am a pretty small person with tiny hands and I could hardly hold the D700 with this crazy lens on :lmao:
"Yeah, it's really heavy, especially on one of these bigger camera bodies. You should probably just go with this 18-200m..." He continued.
So, I said...maybe I could handle a long focal length prime lens, just for those shots where I was far away but wanted good low light/fast performance. I asked if he had another lens I'd read about; the 135mm 2.0 nikon.
What did he say? "GEEZ why would you WANT that??? You'd have to stand SO far away to even get a shot!"
ummmm...that's the point of a long focal length...you are trying to get a shot FAR AWAY
Then..the highlight of this entire venture.. What doe this kid do?
He gets very serious all of a sudden, and says to me. "You know wha the FUTURE of photography is? It's not these big DSLR's.. It's not in the bigger bodies and bigger lenses. It's in THIS!" He says as he pulls out from the shelf this thin, sleek, point and shoot looking thing.
" Really? The future of photography is in point and shoot?" I asked him.
He explained that cameras were all about getting smaller, not bigger. That sensor were all about getting smaller, like computers. And that this wasn't a point and shoot, because it had INTERCHANGABLE (puny LOL) lenses! wooo! =P
I said what do you mean? There's a reason the best, most expensive, professional cameras are either full frame, or medium format.. NOT cropped.
"Medium format?? NOBODY even HAS one of those things. " He replies.
Really? Nobody?
I'll stop there, because you get the idea of the conversation. That was about the point where I thanked him for letting me try the cameras/lenses out and went on my way. But I had to share my first trip to a camera store. At the very least, I learned that the 70-200mm is just way too big for me...so if I ever get a new telephoto lens, it will either have to be a prime, or lower aperture.
But the best part of the trip was the laugh
I finally decided to venture out yesterday to the ONLY local camera shop in my area and take a look at what they had. Up until now, I've only focused on reading reviews, studying, and reading what people here have to say about the different cameras and lenses.
I decided that, in my head at least, I wanted most to work towards using a D700 with a 24-70mm and a 70-200mm 2.8 as my primary lenses. So, I asked if I could take a look at them while I was at the store.
First, there were two gentlemen at the shop, one in his late 20s and one in his mid 50's or so.. I had my 6 year old son with me, and we were greeted by the younger of the two.
He asked what I used currently, and I said I just have the D5000 and primarily use my 50mm 1.4 . His reply?
"Oh the D5000! That one has AMAZING ISO performance!"
"uh.. wha? I get noise at 800 ISO, sometimes lower..." I replied
He then explained that well, relative to the grain you used to get with 800 ISO film cameras, the D5000 was awesome.
Then, he asks if I've considered what camera body I want to upgrade to. I ask to see the D700.
"Why would you want to see that? I have this D300 here that is great and it's all you'd need..."
"Well..the D300 is a crop sensor, and I'd like to pair my camera with the 24-70 on a full frame.."
So he tries to convince me that nobody "needs" a full frame camera, and that all he uses is the D300, it's a great camera! He also says that crop sensors are the "future" of photography.
He then pulls out the 18-200mm zoom lens, stops down to 3.5 at its widest, 5.6 at its longest length. He tries to convince me I'd be just as well off getting THAT lens with the D300 as I would with the 24-70 on the D700. I explain to him that I want a good low light, sharp, performance lens for doing weddings down the road.. That it's important to me that I come as best prepared as possible, with what I am confident is the best equipment I can afford- this includes (to me) a FULL frame camera, and one of the standards in wedding lenses ... Stopping down to AT least 2.8.
I then hear the older gentlmen snicker at this other guy replies "man.. you must read a LOT of reviews and forums."
He then says "this 18-200mm zoom is awesome, you'd only need ONE lens, and you could use a crop sensor camera. Really, tons of wedding photographers love this lens, why don't you???"
"It doesn't stop down to 2.8..."
"Well. you don't NEED that extra blurry depth of field.."
"Maybe not always, but I like it, and I want the ability to perform in LOW LIGHT." ........ "so.. um.. could I take a look at the 24-70 mm 2.8?"
"We don't have that one in stock."
"How about the 70-200mm 2.8?"
He then pulls out this MASSIVE lens. I mean, sure I expected it to be big, but it was HEAVY. I really thought this was *THE* lens I'd want to work towards, but I am a pretty small person with tiny hands and I could hardly hold the D700 with this crazy lens on :lmao:
"Yeah, it's really heavy, especially on one of these bigger camera bodies. You should probably just go with this 18-200m..." He continued.
So, I said...maybe I could handle a long focal length prime lens, just for those shots where I was far away but wanted good low light/fast performance. I asked if he had another lens I'd read about; the 135mm 2.0 nikon.
What did he say? "GEEZ why would you WANT that??? You'd have to stand SO far away to even get a shot!"
ummmm...that's the point of a long focal length...you are trying to get a shot FAR AWAY
Then..the highlight of this entire venture.. What doe this kid do?
He gets very serious all of a sudden, and says to me. "You know wha the FUTURE of photography is? It's not these big DSLR's.. It's not in the bigger bodies and bigger lenses. It's in THIS!" He says as he pulls out from the shelf this thin, sleek, point and shoot looking thing.
" Really? The future of photography is in point and shoot?" I asked him.
He explained that cameras were all about getting smaller, not bigger. That sensor were all about getting smaller, like computers. And that this wasn't a point and shoot, because it had INTERCHANGABLE (puny LOL) lenses! wooo! =P
I said what do you mean? There's a reason the best, most expensive, professional cameras are either full frame, or medium format.. NOT cropped.
"Medium format?? NOBODY even HAS one of those things. " He replies.
Really? Nobody?
I'll stop there, because you get the idea of the conversation. That was about the point where I thanked him for letting me try the cameras/lenses out and went on my way. But I had to share my first trip to a camera store. At the very least, I learned that the 70-200mm is just way too big for me...so if I ever get a new telephoto lens, it will either have to be a prime, or lower aperture.
But the best part of the trip was the laugh