A Post Production Techinque

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    I am anxious to try this technique. Checked out your website. Amazing body of work!

    Love & Bass
     
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    Your multiple USM's are artifacting your fine details.

    Good to see you back Benji ;) Ready for another round?
     
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    Whoa, I have to ask, how in the world does sharpening at 100-180 not result in oversharpening? Particularly when you've already sharpened the image...
     
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    It does.
     
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    So it does oversharpen...is that the point then? I've been avoiding oversharpening images like it was a giant tiger trying to eat me for lunch.
     
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    You should avoid oversharpening.

    Benji is a good shooter, if a bit stuck in the 80's. He's done some campaigns for Swarovski, apparently. But he's always been a little hair-brained when it comes to post-proceesing. I've posted here illustrating the difference between sharpening extra and sharpening an already sharpened image. The difference is something like linear vs. exponential.

    You don't even have to believe my tests, though. Take a close look at the hair in Benji's photo he links to. It' artifacted. You can see it in the feathers as well if you look carefully.

    I wouldn't be so hard on the guy if I thought he was well intentioned. But here's the thing, and this is easily confirmed by looking at his history (basically all of his posts have been in threads about himself). Benji is not here to be an altruist. He's here to advertise.
     
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    Thanks for clearing that up Alpha. Upon closer inspection I see the artifacting you're talking about.
     
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    If fashion photogs are what is influencing my 15yo daughter with stuff like this, I must say I am NOT impressed.

    I have a hard enough time convincing her she is good looking and intelligent. This just undermines what I have to work on with her.

    For the rest of the fashion photogs, put yourself in the place of REAL parents with REAL kids. And then remember the TRUE influence you have on them when you go to post-process those 30 pounds off the model.
     
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    Fashion photographers are not influencing your daughter. Magazine editors and art directors are. Take it up with them.
     
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    Fashion photography and shooting models is something I want to get into, so duly noted. Except, it's a big part of the biz making the garment look as good as possible, or the model un-naturally beautiful. (Edit: As Alpha noted, it's not necessarily the photogs who are the problem.) When it's not about selling a product or idea, I see it as just trying to create a very unique image; something other-worldly. I feel that a better way to tackle the problem is to label such photos in magazines and other publications with things like "This photo has been retouched, and is not an accurate depiction of reality, nor what can practically be achieved." (And I am considering adding notes like that to my photos like this.)

    Educating the populace is the most important thing. People need to understand that these images aren't accurate depictions of reality, and just how much work goes into retouching, and how much can be done.
     
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    Sorry, that's a cop-out on the part of the photog.
     

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