Advice needed. (But not urgently)

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  1. Fatman

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    You used a very long shutter speed for bright sunshiny weather!
    Even though your aperture was very tiny, you still allowed for too much light get onto your sensor. Hence the overexposure and the movement blurs, both from camera shake (few people only can handhold such a long exposure!) and from a moving object that passed through your frame while you were exposing.
    So with such a long exposure in brightest sunshine not even an ND filter will give you enough "shade" to get good exposure.
    (Doesn't your camera show you that you are overexposing? Is there not such a little scale inside your viewfinder beneath the frame that has an arrow going from +2 via 0 to -2?)
     
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    You'll have to use a neutral density filter. There's no way around it. You have to limit the light coming into the camera, and since you can't change the light falling on the entire scene, you can only regulate what you let your film/sensor see.
     
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    A polarizer would also do the same thing though I'm not sure exactly how much light a polarizer allows through where a ND filter will tell you it allows 1/2, 1/4 or 1/8 of the light through (if I'm wrong I'm sure someone can correct me). Since a polarizer can have multiple uses and you mentioned a tight budget I think I would recommend that first and a ND filter aftwards if you're still not happy with the results.

    Being able to slow down the shutter speeds during the daytime can have awesome effects on pics... especially any involving moving water (waterfalls, fountains, etc.). Have fun!!

     
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    A lower ISO will also help, but from the looks of things, neither that nor a polarizer will be enough. Most polarizers I've seen are about 2 stops, ND4, or 1/4 the light (all the same thing). You might have to stack multiple filters for a bright day. If you shoot color, a polarizer is a good thing to get, so that might be the place to start. Just choose a cloudy day, or better yet, wait until dusk.
     
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    You didn't "high speed sync" your flash, and it looks like your shutter was too long too. My guess is if you go back and look at your meta data, you have some crazy ap like 22 or something.
    Edited to add, I went back up and looked at the ap info......32. Dang, my cameras wont even go that high. That's the problem...........that and the lack of high speed sync.
     
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    It looks like to me that you may be shooting at too high of an ISO speed. Drop down the ISO setting, and if that is still too much, then the ND filter is what is left.
     
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    you could also try a pinhole in the lens cap. Though I have no idea what that would do in digital it used to work on the old polaroid 110 to cut the light down tremendously. BTW I like the way it looks now but I'm a bit wierd. Drop your gamma and it look a lot like some of those oriental paintings.
     
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    High speed sync?? I don't think he even used a flash in this shot. And if he did, he wouldn't need high speed sync with a 0.3" exposure.
     
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    it may be 3+ stops not just 3.. but hey I like it with a little gamma correction
     
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    There are some really slow-speed slide films out there. A polarizer definately won't give you sufficient darkening. You could also try waiting til later at night (or earlier in the morning) to get the ambient light level down. Shooting long exposures is problematic in the middle of the day (except for when you want a very short exposure; Murphy's law of exposure states that the shutter speed/aperture you need will be the inverse of the shutter speed/aperture you will get--and also that you will need high-speed film before shooting one tenth of the frames on the roll of slow-speed film you just loaded into the camera--which doesn't apply if you use digital.)
     
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    Now I still think the pin hole in the lens cap will work but I have no way of testing. someone with a digital slr should take a black piece of cardboard and cut a pin hole in it. Hold it against the lens and try it.
     

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