advice on purchasing photoshop

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  1. msf

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    So I havent kept up on the newest products of photoshop for the last 7 or so years. I had photoshop CS1 and was happy with it. It did what I needed.

    Now that I got a dual core laptop and plan on getting a quad core desktop its time to upgrade. Plus ive heard so many good advancements in photoshop that will help speed up the workflow, I think I have to upgrade.

    So my question is what all do I need to get? Besides CS4 or CS5. Theres lightroom, theres bridge, theres creative suite, etc.

    I missed my chance to buy the CS4 upgrade new from stores like bhphotovideo, but maybe theres other stores that still has cs4 upgrades for sales. Does anyone know of any by chance?

    If I have to get a new version of CS5, perhaps I could get the student/teacher edition, might be worth taking a college class. :) I know the old terms lets you use Photoshop's educational version commercially after your finished being a student, hopefully thats still the case.

    I know theres gimp, but its to hard to use now, im use to photoshops layouts and shortcut keys.

    I mostly use photoshop for touching up portraits and other photograph subjects. I dont create to much or do web design in it.
     
  2. KenC

    KenC Been spending a lot of time on here!

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    I recently picked up CS5 for a new computer (mac), having used CS on a PC with XP previously. Bridge is included in the basic CS5 software and is handy for dealing with raw files. There are a few improvements from CS, some of which I find very useful: spot healing brush, better bw conversion tools, better Adobe Camera Raw. I also don't do anything really crazy in PS and usually don't have more than about 100 MB files, and for what it's worth, CS5 runs just fine for me on a 3.2 GHz dual-core i3 with 4 GB ram. I don't know CS4 or whether it's still available, but if so, it may well do what you need. I've never used Lightroom, but my impression is that its main function is to organize files and do minor edits, so I don't see how it would help me, since what I have is pretty well organized (and no $ riding on it!) and I often need the greater editing power of PS.
     
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    Big Mike I am Big, I am Mike Staff Member Supporting Member

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    I would really recommend Lightroom. It has totally revolutionized my workflow.

    There really isn't much that you can do in LR, that you can't do with Photoshop...but Lightroom is just so much smoother and easier when it comes to dealing with a lot of images. It's primary function is to give you a means to control your workflow in a very efficient manor.
    And what it does that Photoshop doesn't, is use a non-destructive process. In a nutshell, it 'imports' the images by creating a data base of where the image files are, and creates a preview. From there on, any changes you make in LR, are stored in a separate file and not saved into the original image. So the integrity of the image is not compromised by opening & saving, and you don't have to create multiple copies etc.

    Lightroom is not a replacement for Photoshop. There are many things that Photoshop does that LR can't. And if you are doing some in-depth editing, you'll probably want to use Photoshop, but LR is no slouch when it comes to editing images. You can make many different adjustment, apply many effects etc. After all, it was made with photographers in mind, so it has the tools that we use most. Photoshop, on the other hand, is an all encompassing image editor, with many tools that you'll never use.

    So the 'best' scenario (IMO) is to use both LR and Photoshop in tandem. Certainly not the cheapest option, but there it is.
     
  4. mwcfarms

    mwcfarms No longer a newbie, moving up!

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    +1 to what Mike says. I love Lightroom. Still learning all its bells and whistles but its can do much more than I thought.
     
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    is the creative suite worth getting, if I can get the educational student/teacher edition, its only $100 more at $300. it comes with bridge, illustrator and a couple other things.
     
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    Get it only if you think you will continue to use the other additions going forward.
    Because, typically, you can't upgrade just photoshop in the future if you get the suite.
     
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    gryphonslair99 Been spending a lot of time on here!

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    :thumbup: +2. I have LR3 and CS5 on my Mac. Most of the time LR3 is all that I need and only finish editing in CS5 when there is something LR can't do. As for picking up CS5. If you buy an Wacom Intuos tablet right now you can get a full version of CS5 for $299 and have an excellent editing tool to go with it.
     
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    Dont listen to these guys, they are clueless...

    Just use Microsoft Paint, it is just as good as PS and probably better. :thumbup:
     
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    I got the design standard creative suite but I do most of my own design work so that having Illustrator and InDesign was important. But as mentioned before, once you get the suite you can't upgrade to just PS if you decide you don't use the rest of the software.

    Btw, I don't believe you'll be able to upgrade from CS1 to CS4 or 5. I think you can only upgrade from two generations back.
     
  10. GerryDavid

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    Yup can upgrade 3 generations. :)

    ive tried paint, but it causes to many artifacts when you save as a jpg. the other tools and filters are awesome though, so its a shame about teh artifacts.

    didnt think about the cost of upgrading the suite, def something to think about.
     
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    GerryDavid No longer a newbie, moving up!

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    wow, the upgrade for the creative suite seems to be $490 to $665 depending on the version your upgrading from. might be worth buying the student/teacher edition each time. :)
     
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    There appears to be a little common sense creeping in to this forum, if you don't need it, don't get it. H
     

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