Thanks Mike! Poiint well taken on the hands; my feeling was that because of the light tan of the breeches, they weren't a big issue, but I think I'll do as Jason suggests and burn them in a bit. I do have other crops, but there's something about this one that makes it a keeper for me; we'll see if sales bear that out! Mehhh... it's all good! I always appreciate points from others. Thanks Wade! I did, but to be honest, I didn't like them as much. For whatever reason, it seemed to work best with less 'turn' than I would normally use. Thanks Jason!