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  1. Mike_E

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    It fits the Leica screw mount cameras and copies.
     
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    I have an older version of that very lens....:D (Note the sellers typo, that is a 50mm 3.5 not a 50mm 4.5)

    It fits the Leica M-39 x 26tpi (Leica LTM) Screw mount found on Leica I/II/III (up to the IIIg), Canon II/III/IV and Canon VT and FED/Zorki, rangefinders and some other Soviet Leica knockoffs, there is more but I am not sure what off hand. Note however some early Soviet models do have trouble mounting it due to thread variation (M-39x1.0)
     
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    It fits my Canon L-1
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    and my "Voightlander" Bessa R:
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    and other "Leica copies."

    In addition to Battou's list there were cameras from Minolta, Yashica,
    Nicca, "Tower," and others including even some Russian SLRs that used
    this lens mount.
     
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    That should read "Russian RF's", I believe. The only Russian SLR's I've encountered that had a tread mount had clones of the Praktica (virtually the same as the Asahi Pentax) mount.

    Leica Thread Mount (LTM) lenses also fit Leica M bodies, along with other manufacter's M-mount bodies (e.g. Minolta CL, ...), via simple adapters and also fit the new Panasonic micro 4/3s models with adapters.

    BTW, my reference books place this lens as being from 1932 or late 1931 (my lens serial number list begins in 1933 with #156001 so probably mid to late 1932 for this lens). It is a "standardized" lens (the tell-tale "O" is visible in one of the photographs) so it is compatible with modern (post 1931) bodies. Earlier samples had to be serial number matched to their respective bodies for proper focus. Some very early standardized lenses did not couple to the RF. RF coupling was introduced in 1932 when the Model II (then called the Model D) was introduced.
     
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    That's not a typo. Early Zenit SLRs had a Leica 39mm screw mount. There
    was a difference in flange-to-film distance so focusing was not always
    possible at all distances but a Leica screw mount lens can be used on
    one of these old Zenits for close-focusing purposes.

    The Pentax/Praktica mount you mentioned is entirely different, being a
    42mm thread mount. Though it is sometimes called the Pentax/Practica
    mount, it first appeared in 1959-60 on the East German Zeiss Contax S
    and has been used on many SLRs from Europe, Russia and Japan. It's
    now usually referred to as the M42 mount and the Leica mount as the
    M39.

    There have been other threaded mounts as well such as the M37, M44
    and others.
     
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    Lol I had included a picture in my original post but then edited it out, but since there are other pics I guess I'll go ahead. :lol: It dosen't really count as it's on a lieca but still....

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    I too have heard of but not encountered the Soviet SLR using the M-39 mount...Not sure where I put it but I had a few written down somewhere. They where classic soviet inconsistancy the same model body had one of three different mounts pending it's manufacturer period :lmao: I learned of them wile doing research for this
     
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    I've seen a few of the 39mm Zenit SLRs at camera shows over the years.
    I didn't pay much attention to them though. Now I might pay more attention
    but haven't seen any in a long while. But, on second thought -- it would
    be a pain trying to find lenses so maybe not. ;)

    There's a similar situation with the earlier Braun Paxette and Dejur D-1 & D-3
    cameras. They use a 39mm threaded mount and Leica lenses will fit but not
    focus properly. I don't know if the Russian Zenit SLR lenses will work on
    those cameras or vice versa.

    That's an impressive list of M42 cameras. I wonder if I can find one that's
    not on there?

    Nice Leica by the way. :D
     
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    Yeah it was for that reason that list is ended with "Some Zenit Modles" because I was unable find an adiquate information as to what all had the M-42 VS the M-39 mounts, I had a bunch of ones that had only the M-42 but dropped them as I began to run into the ones that had both.

    Maybe :D, I know I dropped a handfull (but not all) of alternate nameplates for the same body.

    Also I have plans on constructing one of those for every mount I can. So far all I have done is the M-42 and the Canon FD mounts. I have to reshoot most of the others due to my own errors in processing and transport to and from work, I somehow ended up with four of the same folder on my PC and I don't know what is processed to what point. Since I have picked up another mount to add to the list that needs to be shot, it'll be easier on me to start from scratch on them when I shoot the Nikon F.

    Thanks, She is a beauty, but in need of a CLA so she rides the pine at the moment.
     
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    I see you have the Ricoh Singlex on the M42 list. The later Ricoh Singlex TLS
    was an M42 camera but not the original Singlex -- it had a Nikon mount, oddly
    enough. The Singlex came with a 55mm f/1.4 Rikenon lens. The Singlex body
    will accept Nikon lenses but the Rikenon lens will not mount on Nikon
    bodies.

    Here's mine:
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    Rumor has it that it's actually a 58mm Nikkor with a new name ring.

    And, this may surprise you. Here's my Sears SL II (also on your M42 list)
    with a Nikon lens on it. No adapter was used and the camera and lens are
    100% original:

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    :D

    The reason for the above craziness is that there were 2 cameras called "Sears SL II"

    One was really a Ricoh Singlex and the other was really a Ricoh Singlex TLS. And,
    to further confuse things, the Ricoh Singlex was also marketed as the Nikon Nikkorex F.
     
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    ^^ Oh... I'm getting a headache! :lol:
     
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    OK then, I won't mention they were all really made by Mamiya. :lmao:
     

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