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Discussion in 'Photography Beginners' Forum' started by pharmakon, Apr 23, 2010.

  1. pharmakon

    pharmakon TPF Noob!

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    Hello.

    My grandfather is currently in Hospice care, after battling pancreatic cancer for over a year now. I was going back through some photos in search of something for my father to remember him by. The folowing are from last thanksgiving, one of the last times the family got to spend with my grandfather in a happy, coherent state.

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    I was really new to photography at the time these were taken. I understand that the originals were noisy and poorly exposed, and I really f'd up the white balance (fortunately they were shot in RAW). I know now that there were several things that could have been done "in camera" to improve the photos.

    What I want to know is your opinion of the edits, and if there is anything else I could do to improve them as they are, considering that I will not be able to go back and reshoot.

    Thanks for your time.
     
  2. LBPhotog

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    the edits are very nice and will be very nice for your father.
     
  3. gsgary

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    I like the warness of the originals better
    I know what you are going through i helped care for my father when he had terminal cancer, he died in my arms at the age of only 45 back in 1984 when i was 20 the sad thing is that i only have 1 6x4 of him because he would not let anyone take his photo
     
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    I'm sorry that your dad is ill. :-(

    Your white balance looks pretty much perfect. Maybe a tad on the blue side, so maybe just kick up that slider a bit. A tiny bit. It's pretty darn perfect though.

    Hugs to you and your Dad.
     
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    I also liked the warmness in the originals, maybe just taking it down but not completely deleting it would have been better.
     
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    Wayyyyy to warm in the originals. Way way way.
     
  7. pharmakon

    pharmakon TPF Noob!

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    thanks, all of you. I pushed the w/b back to the warm side just a bit and it does look good. After staring at it for so long it is hard to tell just where it should be so I appreciate the feedback.

    Is the faked DOF obvious? I wanted to take away the distraction of the man in the background, especially in #2 where he is looking right into the camera.
     
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    bennielou TPF Noob!

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    I totally didn't notice the faked DOF so that means it's good!
     
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    pharmakon I am sorry to here your grandfather is sick.

    I like the original better; it is more natural and warm.
     
  10. Bitter Jeweler

    Bitter Jeweler Been spending a lot of time on here!

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    Love the last one, very much.

    While I figure you want who I assume to be your dad in the back, I would try to clone him out, and that image will be really touching, in my mind at least.
     
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    I like the second one better but this is purely subjective. Both my dad and father-in-law are pianists so... I have a soft spot for them. Also because playing the piano is about the only thing my f-i-l can still do correctly. When you talk of "coherent state," I know exactly what you mean.

    Like gsgary, I much prefer the warm tones of the originals. You could tone them down if it bothers you but I think you went a bit too far in the edits. Warm tones help the warm feelings.

    Other than that, the fake DOF is just fine. It works very nicely. I like the person (your dad?) in the background but if your going to cut him in half as in the first one, yes, it might be better to just clone him out.
     
  12. pharmakon

    pharmakon TPF Noob!

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    I started trying to do some cloning, but I'm having a little difficulty making it believable. I will try again tonight but I have to pack now. thanks again for your thoughts.
     

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