black & white conv.

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  1. eskiho

    eskiho TPF Noob!

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    Hi there! I know this has been a topic before, so please, let me express my apology for this topic ahead of time.

    The problem that i'm having is that i'm shooting with my d70 and my black and white conversions in PS always make the img turn out kind of, i dont know, flat, grainy. They just don't catch my eye is what it really comes down to.

    Here are two examples from pictures i took yesterday doing some street photography while having coffee with this gentelmen I met named Albert.

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    I like the actual photo itself and its a shame I can't get the conversion to capture this young gent in his complexity.

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  2. Big Mike

    Big Mike I am Big, I am Mike Staff Member Supporting Member

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    Definitely seems to be lacking in contrast. What is your method for converting to b&w? There are a few different ways to go about it.

    It might be as simple as adjusting the brightness & contrast. Maybe a little sharpening.
     
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    Maybe take the brightness down and add a little contrast?
     
  4. eskiho

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    I forget in what post, but somebody posted a conversion tool used in PS and thats what i've been using, but I think that i'll get away from using that as im not too happy with the results i've been getting.

    Yea its just so flat. I mean, i don't get the detail in his face of the wrinkles and that sort all the little details that bring a photo together.
     
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    So, what method would you recommend? I know people talk about layers and that sort of thing, but nobody really tells you HOW to do what you have to, just what to do. I kind of fall into the group of PS users that mess around aimlessly until they get a result I like, but i hate randomeness in my photos.
     
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    Maybe you should post the image in the photoshop sub forum, and maybe a few guru's here can help you out.
     
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    How did you convert these images?
     
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    eskiho TPF Noob!

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    I just used a black to white conversion tool that somebody posted as a filter in PS. Just changed the brightness a little but thats about it. Leaves it really flat.
     
  9. Big Mike

    Big Mike I am Big, I am Mike Staff Member Supporting Member

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    Just about everything you do in Photoshop should be about layers...if you don't know about layers...do some reading.

    Try a few searches on the forum...I know there are some techniques on here somewhere.
     
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    http://www.thephotoforum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=19564&highlight=conversion

    I know its about layers, as you would see if you would have read what you quoted. Of course I could do some reading, but wait a second....isn't the purpose of this forum to help? Any question anyone asks could be replied with "do some reading", but i'm pretty sure thats not the purpose of this forum.

    I've tried looking through, but if you've ever done any searches on this forum you'd see that it is not very helpful. I type in Black & White and it comes up with pages after pages of people wanting a critique on their conversion.

    I haven't been a member of this forum long and can't retreat into my memory of past posts to locate this information. I don't know what they were titled, i dont know when or how far back i'm looking. Lots of answers for questions come in topics that arn't asking that specific questions, and all the topics that are asking the specifics are tainted with 3 posts (half from you) all telling them to do a search.

    But thanks for your useful words, i'll file them next to my Chirstopher Reaves Guide for Dancing in my book of most helpful manuals ever printed.

    The only upside to the book Mr. Reaves wrote was it was completly blank since he couldn't move his arms to pick up the pen, and hense saved me a waste of time, which your post, unforunatly, didn't.

    Cheers.
     
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    Well maybe if you did some reading, you could ask specific and intelligent questions about the topic rather than saying that you mess around aimlessly.

    You said
    That led me to think that you could use a little more background information.

    If you spent as much effort trying to learn about the topic at hand, as you did trying to insult me, you could have figured it out by now.
     

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