Bright Bright Snow!! Beginner?'s

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  1. RebelTasha

    RebelTasha TPF Noob!

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    Edited later to add.. Please ignore this thread I missed out an important part of photography and this is all a moot point, please read post #11 for explanation!

    Ugh! So basically I think my fault was in my lens I took 50mm 1:8.
    I tried taking pictures of the lake area all covered in snow, everything was covered in snow and it was extremely bright and sunny too...
    I tried altering contrast etc, tried a custom WB, ISO
    They all came back blown I knew they would I could see it in the LCD.
    I felt it was because of the lens with the high Fstop and that it is best for low light situations..
    I dont' have my camera bag yet so I didn't bring my Canon kit lens with me.
    Would it have made a difference or should I have been able to make it work with this lens without editing after?

    Canon Rebel XT.
     
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    If you were shooting in AV mode, just hold down the AV button and move your exposure compensation down a couple of clicks with the dial. That should help compensate the brightness of the shot.

    Last time I shot in the snow I had the opposite problem and had to increase the exposure compensation a couple clicks to get my images brighter.

    From what I remember the exposure compensation will work in all modes except any of the auto modes and <M>.
     
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    I was shooting in "M" dang it, when I had my old 35mm Rebel I shot in AV all the time.
    Your solution would have been perfect.. thankyou .. I could kick myself.
     
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    While a fast lens like that can do well in low light, it can do just as well in bright light.

    You can't just put the camera in M and hope for the best...you need to meter the light in some way. Even in M mode, you can look at the scale on the LCD and adjust the settings until the 'needle' is in range and close to the -0-.
     
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    It would help if you could post an example photo along with EXIF data (shot info, like shutter speed, aperture, ISO, etc). If you have the lens wide open at f/1.8, I suspect you may have maxed out the shutter speed and had overexposure. You need to stop the lens down if that's the case, or use a neutral density filter. Without an example it's anybody's guess though.
     
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    The Aperture was blinking '4000' I turned the dial all the way to try and compensate and it didn't move the needle at all.
    No matter what I did I couldn't get the needle to 0, infact I couldn't get it to move at all.
    I do know about looking at the scale I wasn't just hoping for the best and shooting for the heck of it I tried until my fingers were going to freeze but nothing I did would budge the needle.
     
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    I'm sorry I wiped my card so I can not tell you I wish I hadn't I should have known to post the information. ISO on these was most probably 100
    I hope I can redeem myself and actually make this work..
    The snow had better not go and melt on me before I can figure it out.. haha
    Here's some hopeless examples all were taken at F1:8 as per lens. I know they are my fault but I dont' want anyone to think I didnt' even bother try..
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    Big Mike I am Big, I am Mike Staff Member Supporting Member

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    It really depends what the camera is reading as well. If the sun is anywhere in the frame, the extreme brightness will throw off the meter.

    When you don't know what settings to use, just flip the camera into auto mode for a second, take a reading and see what settings it gives you. Then you back to manual and input those same settings...that should put your needle on the -0-. Then you can starting making adjustments from there.
     
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    Big Mike I am Big, I am Mike Staff Member Supporting Member

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    The settings on your camera have limits. The maximum aperture is F1.8...and the minimum is probably F22 or F29. The shutter speed will max out at 1/4000 and can go to 30 seconds (or into bulb mode). You can even adjust the ISO as well...but it has limits.

    So in your situation, F1.8 was just too large of an aperture...because the shutter was at it's limit. If you adjust the aperture smaller (higher number) then the shutter speed will fall back into it's range and you will be OK.

    Once we get all that figured out...we need to realize that bright snow will trick the meter and so when you shoot a scene with lots of white like that...you actually want the needle to be to the right of the -0-...maybe +1 or even +2.
     
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    Ok if i'm not mistaken the lens I was using does not have anything lower than 1:8 so therefore it was partially the lens and not me but I could have compensated in the AV mode correct?
    Here is the lens
    http://www.amazon.com/Canon-50mm-1-8-Camera-Lens/dp/B00007E7JU

    Feel free to bang my head against a wall if I'm still not getting it, I can be stubborn..
     
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    OK I don't even know how to put this into words but I am a complete idiot!
    You know what I "WASN'T" doing??
    While in "M" yes I moved the dial but I did NOT hold down the A/V button as I mentioned earlier in this thread I used to have a 35mm Rebel and shot in A/V mode most of the time therefore when I turned the dial I changed the aperature not the shutter speed..
    So this whole thread is a moot point of my stupidity...
    Please discount anything I have said it is all in the past.. lol..
    Just went out and took more pictures and guess what my lens will move out of 1:8 durrrr it went right down to 22 just like Mike said..
    I did only get my camera the day before yesterday and it's been 8 years..:lol::lol:

    Do I get a prize??
     
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    Hey it's the Beginner's forum for a reason. You're allowed. :mrgreen:
     

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