Buying my first DSLR. Several questions

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    Hi. I am starting to get into photography and want to move from my compact to a DSLR. Any suggestions on a DSLR for entry level photographer? I borrowed a T2i from my school but its only 24hr rentals.. they also have a Nikon D90 which I dont see a point renting because it's not a realistic camera for me to purchase because of price. Overall I would like to keep price to around ~750-850. Price including lense(s)

    I haven't completely decided between Nikon and Canon but Canon seems to be an overall better choice because that's what everyone I know has. Also.. any suggestions on first lense? T2i comes with 18-55mm from bestbuy but if it's a lense that wont do much for me.. then I would possibly consider purchasing the body and lense seperately. I know some of this depends on type of photography you enjoy which is listed below. General question.. is it a waste to buy lenses even if it doesn't "support" the type of photography you enjoy?

    Types of photography I like aren't completely known as I don't have tons of experience yet but as far as viewing, flower photography (macro?) night-sky scapes, water scapes and nature scenes tend to catch my eye. I guess I really wouldn't be opposed to any type of photography but I see myself shooting sports the least.

    Thanks in advance
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    If everyone you know has a Canon then it might be easier to bum lenses off them to see which you like. 850 being your max, the T2i or T3i are pretty much what you can get unless you go second hand; they're fun too :)
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    And what if I wanted to bump up my price to like 1100? how much would that open my options?
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    Probably not too much, but you could get a 60D body for that amount of money, but then you would have to come up with $$ for glass. Since you are just starting out, I would suggest you get the least expensive camera you can, like the ones you have been looking at - the T2i or the T3i or even the T3, and spend the rest on decent glass. If you buy a camera with more bells and whistles than you need, just starting out, then you will spend a lot of your time learning about, or trying to figure out, what the camera can do, rather than developing your knowledge of what it takes to make good pictures - exposure, composition, etc. - simple camera to start -> ease of learning IMHO.

    As for your question - is it a waste to buy lenses even if it doesn't "support" the type of photography you enjoy - the answer, from my perspective would be a definite yes. If the lenses do not support the kind of photography you want to do, then you probably will not use them that much - a lot of $$ sitting around when they might be better spent on something you will use more often - make sense? My 0.02ยข FWIW.

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    P.S. As apples has said, you can always explore the second-hand market. I know both B&H and Adorama sell refurbished units, but you would have to check out their sites to see what they have and their prices. Then there is always Amazon or e-bay.
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    Western, thank you for the response. Anyone be able to give me a rundown on the differences between the T2i and T3i? Is the $200 difference worth it?
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    WOW! You are in luck! The CANON site has a COMPARE feature! Here is a link to the T2i and T3i compare I just did! (and I don't even shoot Canon)! :)

    Canon U.S.A. : Consumer & Home Office : Digital SLR Cameras
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    Awesome.. another jackass. If you didn't notice.. I said I am new to photography.. and reading **** on a specifications tab doesn't mean anything if you don't understand what it means. gtfo my thread k thx

    also.. if you are going to be a smart ass over the interw3bz just by posting comparison stats the least you could do is at least compare the 2 cameras I listed.
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    Then read it anyway.. and what you don't know.. Look up! Learn! What is so hard about that? Or would you rather just be TOLD? Bet you would learn more my way! lol!
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    Kid.. maybe I already did look up the comparison on Canon's website. Maybe I did google it and it was just a bunch of threads typing paragraphs including the numbers of the comparison sheets.
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    KID??? hahahahaha... thanks! Whatever... I am glad you are planning on buying a Canon.. and not a Nikon! ;)
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    The T2i and T3i are basically the same camera from what I've seen with just two real differences:

    The T3i has a swiveling and tilting LCD display... sounds good except it's just asking to get broken when you leave it out and bump into something the wrong way. The only thing it's really good for is for turning the dispay around so the glass isn't exposed when it's stored or transported.

    The T3i also supports wireless flash control from the camera. Unless you have or plan on getting a 430EX II or 580EX II sometime soon and using off camera flash... its not worth anything to you.

    Personally I would suggest the T3... not the T3i, just the T3. 12 megapixels is more than enough, and with the leftover money grab a couple of lenses. Lenses are a much better investment.
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    Thanks scorpion, would you also suggest the T3 over the T2i?
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    People lets calm down a bit here
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    For someone's first DSLR, yes I would unless you have a very large budget, or you have a specific reason to get the T2i.
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    Purchased my T3 today with the 18-55 and an extra 55-250 lense. Anyone have any general suggestions for settings and shooting mode for sunsets? Something I can look forward to seeing every night and give consistent practice. What I have done so far is too bright and can't see definition in the clouds.
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    Fyi, the first link if you Google t2i vs t3i gives the snapsort website is a rundown of both. Its also helpful for any other comparisons. I did hours upon hours of researching before I came to settle on the t2i. With that said I still haven't bought it because I'm waiting on the money for the other half of the camera. Just wanted to state the obvious here. Its no big deal to ask but just a slight bit of research and waiting reviews of cameras in your price range can very quickly help you become more familiar with the things you may or may not need. I am choosing the t2i because it seems user friendly, it takes full 1080p video which may come in handy, lower level lenses seem to be on the cheaper side and also because of magic lantern. I'm a completw noob to photography but researching on and off for the last few weeks as well as going through some of the beginners section here as well as reading things suggested by forum members, I feel as though my knowledge of the concept of photography has increased tenfold. Just saying... this is coming from a noob to a noob here
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    Not sure exactly how to do this on the T3, but take the mode dial to Av, change the metering mode to spot metering (manual will tell you exactly how), change ISO to 100, push the button that has an icon that looks like 4 or 5 little squares, and then look through the viewfinder, now use the scroll button to select the center focus point. Put that focus point on the sun, press the shutter button halfway down to focus, then use the scroll button again, move it one way or the other until the numer changes, start out at 8.0 and see how that works... if the shutter is too slow (blurry pic), make the number smaller and try again.

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