Camera love- is the grass always greener for you?

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  1. webestang64

    webestang64 No longer a newbie, moving up!

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    The size and the sounds it makes are what do it for me. Added plus is that they seem indestructible.

    I'm the Eugene Atget of our time.....
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    Quote.... He was not progressive, but worked patiently with techniques that were obsolescent when he adopted them, and very nearly anachronistic by the time of his death.


     
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    astroNikon 'ya all Bananas I tell 'ya Supporting Member

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    I loved my D7000. I was camera free for years (except P&S cameras) from an old D70.
    Then I added a D600. that was an excellent imager. Great images for everything. The 39pt AF system was pretty good compared to Canon at the time. I then sold the D7000 because I never used it, for anything even long distance stuff. I then added a D750 and had it and the D600. Great combo, great images from both. I then added a D500 DX and sold the D600. The D500 was "okay" more for your BIF people and not for what I normally shot. I thought the images were good but still prefer the FX images. So it's now sold. Now back to a D750. But that D6x0 for the price is a great imaging camera.

    I'll probably be adding a APS-C FujiFilm X-T20 at some point for telescope duty. I was using the D500 for that but that's expensive considering no AF etc .. just a dumb, high density sensor camera is needed for telescope duty.
     
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    I started digital in 2001 with a used D1...and got my FIRST-ever AF lens for that, the AF Nikkor 35-70 f/3.3~4.5, then added a few more AF lenses, limke an atrociously bad 28-70 f/2.8 Tokina ATX-Pro...Gawd, what a garbage lens. I bought other d-slrs after the D1. The D1 was NOT a good-color camera, and the custom menu functions were ALL alpha-numeric...ZERO words for the settings, and I relied on a cheat-sheet to set the camera up.

    I went thru a lot od d-slrs, as each one offered better and better stuff. Fuji S1 Pro...decent JPEGs...RAW conversion software at that time was primitive; "digitial fill light" had not been invented...I had no clarity sliders either...Fuji S2 Pro had fantastic color on SOOC images, even better color when edited, but RAW conversion S/W was still limited and primitive. Later cams included Nikon D1h, Nikon D70,Canon 20D, Canon 5D (nice imager, and full-frame, but limited dynamic range, but Nikon had no full-frame cameras at this time), Nikon D2x, Nikon D3x, Nikon D610.

    I shot the D2x a lot for years...good AF system, really quite astoundingly capable as an AF camera with a very sophisticated af system which was difficult for many to master, and which was later dumbed-down and greatly simplified in later Nikon cameras. The D3x was/is the absolute best-shooting camera I have ever seen, with very responsive, fast-handling subsystems and the absolute best, most-complete controls of any d-slr I've ever used. Its limitation was its top usable ISO of about 1,600, but for me that was seldom an issue. I LOVED it..sold it last year. If I missed a shot, it was always,always,always **my fault**, that's how good the camera was as a shooter.

    The D610 has a better image sensor in it, but the AF system is decidedly a step backwards from the D2x or D3x...it back-focuses far,far too often, and lacks action-tracking sureness, but it's cheap, new, and non-threratening to people in a way that giant, black cameras are not. But..I really dislike the camera in many ways. I cannot DEPEND on it the way I could/did with the D2x or D3x for 12 years...

    Still...it shoots video, has a very solid image sensor in it, but it lacks audio annotation, has a weaker AF module than I have been used to for well over a decade and all the AF points are clustered right in the center of the frame, and I HATE the way the ISO is displayed, and in general do not have any love for the machine. This camera can and does blow shots that would be dead-easy with the D2x or D3x...focusing mostly, but also refusing to shoot even with AF-C and AF-S release priority enabled. I dunno. It's what the Canon 5D was: a cheap body, with a very good sensor in it.

    Looking back, I'd say the Fuji S2 Pro was a cheap body/great shooter; Canon 5D cheap body, excellent shooter;D2x and D3x fantastic bodies, one a good shooter, the other great; the D610 is a great sensor in a cheap body and a decent shooter, but not great. There have been four cameras over 16 years that were really,really successful for me. The others were just stop-gaps, and were released as technology was still evolving. Stuff on the market today is better as a whole than it was in 2010 and before.
     
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    The K1000 just LOOKS like what a camera should look like to anyone over 40! I just love 'em.
     
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    Peeb Semi-automatic Mediocrity Generator Supporting Member

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    There is a ton of truth and insight in that statement right there! We've all had successful gear and we've all had stop-gap gear and it's pretty clear which is which!
     
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    The earliest five or six years of digital cameras were released as technology was evolving, rapidly in most cases, incrementally in some cases, and as the camera makers struggled to find the exact, right mix of features in an expanding camera marketplace, both to drive sales, but also to establish a market foothold. Canon had the 5D, the "affordable" full-frame a few years before Nikon had any full-frame camera offering; Nikon's first FX was the D3, and it was an expensive camera, significantly higher than the cost of a 5D at its introductory price which was, as I recall, $3,499, but which dropped to $2,199 on close-out pricing at the end of its life.

    Some cameras are or were just simply very fine "shooters". Some had issues or weaknesses, and some just did not last long on the market. There were some weak cameras, and some fine cameras.

    I shot the FE-2 and the F3HP from the mid-1980's until 2000; I loved both of those cameras. I prefered the FE-2 over the FM and the FM-2. I liked the viewfinder of the F3HP more than any camera I've ever,ever,ever used. We've now arrived at the stage where constant upgrading is no longer necessary, and where for many of us, it's probably better to buy one camera type and to stick with it for some length of time.
     
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    How about the first Kodak Nikons. Talking about pricey at the time. My first digital SLR would have been a Fuji S1 Pro. But long story short. The camera store basically stole my money and some equipment from me. Was down in FL and he took off to NY. That put a dent into my photo buying for a little while. Eventually I did pick up a D50, and been upgrading since.
     
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    ouch!
     
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    I bought a Fuji S1 Pro....used...payed like $2,800 for it when it was still current..it suffered from the dreaded "green blob issue" or whatever it was called, in which a large portion of the frame suffered from a fairly faint greenish tinge across like 65% of the picture area...the Fuji S1 Pro was a VERY cheap Nikon N60 film body hack...minimum ISO level was 320...slooooow flash synch speed...pathetic buffer...a rather dismal camera, but at the time it was a D-SLR, and there was it, and the Nikon D1, and the early Kodak DCS model or two....not much choice in those early days of the d-slr.
     
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    Never got the chance to see the green blob. :048: In the year that he was stringing me along, they announced the S2 Pro. So, I said get me that one. And it went on for another 3-4 months. Eventually they just closed up shop. :BangHead: 16-17 years ago and still hurts.
     
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    DanOstergren Been spending a lot of time on here!

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    I've had 5 cameras in the last 8 years since starting photography. I started with a Rebel 2000 in '09, then I went to digital about a year later with a Rebel XTi. After having the XTi for about 2 years, I got a 5D MKI in 2012 before moving to SF. When I moved to San Francisco it was stolen, so I had to replace it, which I did with a Canon 50D. After having that for a year, I decided that I wanted to go back to a 5D MKI, so I did. I love this camera so much. It was super inexpensive, and it can render an image beautifully. After using this body for 4 years though, I find myself wanting video capabilities and larger resolution images. I may be upgrading to a 5D MKII or MKIII, or a 6D. I only have one lens, so it's also a possibility that I may go with a Nikon.
     
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    If your thinking Nikon and you have some spare money right now (today). You can get a refurbished Nikon D810 for $2,000 from Nikon! The only Canon close to it's sensor quality is the 5d mk iv (color gamut, dynamic range, and ISO performance). Only a Sony Mirrorless test better by DXO for cameras under $45k!!!

    D610's are $1,080 at the moment. Both are full frame Nikons. The D610's are rated #9 by DXO. Tomorrow there may be an announcement on new Nikon models. It's their 100th birthday. And people are at least expecting a D810 replacement. I am betting there will be a couple more they way they are reducing pricing on some models. That is their typical clue when a replacement is coming.
     
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