I am very tired of a lot of people on these forums that just sound like Canon and Nikon salesmen and are lacking any type of objectivity, and are giving advice to people and just don't make any sense. I know there has been plenty of arguments about this but I am starting to be fed up with stupid people. I have a lot of time at work, so i spend a lot of time on forums, mostly talking about politics and photography. You would think that the photography forums would be a place where people would be a little more open minded since we are talking about an art and it's tools, not about ideology. Anyways, I think that some things need to be set straight, even though it seams some people will never listen. YES, Nikon and Canon have, so far, been coming up with professional bodies and most of the other companies have not. YES, for the expert level cameras, until recently, that IQ on both of those brand camera was slightly higher. This being said, the DSLR market has been going up the roof and there are some consequences to that. The first one is that there is more and more offers on the market. Olympus, Sony, Pentax (and Samsung) have been working on their offer and diversifying it. All of those companies offer some interesting bodies that can take some pictures that are just as good as what you can do with Canon or Nikon. As far as full format cameras are concerned, shortly, Canon and Nikon will have to deal with Sony and Samsung (thus probably Pentax as well). The same way the APS-C cameras of Sony and Pentax are just as good as the Canon or Nikon equivalent, the FF ones will probably be just as good. As far as lenses are concerned, the two big ones do have a larger offer available for new lenses. But the old lenses should be taken into consideration, and this makes a difference. Pentax, has had the largest increase in marketshare in Japan last year. This is true because they offer affordable quality cameras and lenses and because Japanese people sure know about cameras. I suspect that this trend will keep going, not only for Pentax but for the non Canon or Nikon cameras in general. So PLEASE, when you give advice to newbies about what system to get, take all this into consideration. Don't tell people that if they go for something else than Canon or Nikon they will outgrow their system because it is simply not true. Plus, if you outgrow something like a K20D that means that you should be making very big money with your pictures and you will be able to afford some other system if you wish so. On a final note, Samsung just patented a system that resets the pixels when they get filled up. It then counts the number of times each pixels got filled up and adds it to whatever value the pixel has at the end of the exposure. This makes the dynamic range virtually unlimited... Where were Canon and Nikon on this one? Sorry for the long rant... It is most likely not needed, and it will most likely serve no purpose, but i am just tired of those people who lack all type of objectivity and are for Canon or Nikon just because it is the first system they've picked up. EDIT: Sorry if I did not mention Panasonic, olympus, leica (digilux not the rangefinder), Fuji, or Sigma. Those companies also offer some very interesting cameras and should not be dismissed!