Canon 5dmkII or 50D?

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  1. zipperfoot

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    Now, granted, I understand that there's a bit of a chasm between these two cameras -- I know that the 5D has a full frame sensor, and is slightly more recent.

    Here's my situation:
    I am a student, practicing and hoping to go into fashion photography. I plan on going to school for photography in the fall of this year. I am looking for a substantial upgrade from the camera I have now. High resolution is an absolute must. (Mind, I am not about to turn professional, I just need a little bit more than what I have now.) I have narrowed it down to either the 5DmkII or the 50D. I have read and seen good things about both. Now. A full-frame sensor would more than likely mean that I would have to get better glass to take full advantage of the sensor size. This is something I am taking into my budget consideration. The 50D has a cropped sensor and, although I am fully aware of the importance of having good lenses, I may not need to invest quite so much into the glass to begin with because the sensor is not as comprehensive. The 50D also does not have the movie mode, which is a good thing for me -- the less "extra" stuff, the better.

    Plus, getting the far less expensive 50D would give me more budget money for lenses and the other extra stuff I need such as memory card(s), battery grip, batteries, etc.

    What my basic questions come down to, I guess, is:
    1. Do you think I need to pay the extra cost for the full-frame sensor, given my situation?
    2. If anyone has ever owned and used the MkII or the 50D (preferably for something similar to what I do, such as portraiture and the like), could you recommend the 50D for its price?

    Thanks a lot for any advice you can give, it's greatly appreciated.
     
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    Get the 50D and put the rest into really good glass. Not just more glass, good glass.
    There are tons of discussion on here discussing the best glass so just take a look at a couple of those to get started but here is the 1st one I would get to start out assuming you have a kit lens with the body.

    50mm 1.4 or 1.2
     
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    I own a 5DII and a 40D. The 40D only comes out of the bag when a very fast autofocus is required. Although the 5DII has no issues with tracking kids, people, etc.....I like the 40D for its fast autofocus and fps for rodeo and such. but when it comes to portraiture, studio work, or just grabbing a camera to walk around with, I always reach for the 5DII. Much better files from the 5DII than any crop sensor camera. Only you can weigh the costs of everything vs your budget.
     
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    Thanks for your advice, guys.
    As of now it looks like I am heavily leaning towards the 50D and getting one of the 50mm primes (you actually mentioned, keith) I've been looking at, and possibly another good lens.

    Thanks again.
     
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    For fashion photography, the 5D2 is superior to the 50D. I would buy the 5D2 kit with the 24-105 lens and you will be set for doing some stellar work. Add more glass as you go along, but a full frame for fashion trumps the best crop sensor.

    The notion the 50D can eek by with lesser glass is inaccurate. If anything, due to the higher pixel density of the 15mp 1.6x sensor, you will need better glass on the 50D... not that any of this is something you will likely notice in most of your pics.

    The money side of things is something only you can answer. If I had my choice, I would go with the 5D2. I did have a 50D for a while, but went to the 5D2 because I do shoot lots of fashion and art. It's better to get what you want the first time vs. settling for something else then regretting it.
     
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    fullframe is the direction you ideally want to go for fashion and studio work so I would echo the advice already given on that score.
    One budget idea though is to consider the older 5D - you should be able to pickup a used (they are no longer in production) copy in good condition and it would give you a little more budget for glass. Glass is where you want to invest in since good glass will last you decades whilst camera bodies have a limited lifespan before they need repair and (After a time) repair costs become uneconomical comparted to replacement/upgrade costs
     
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    +1 intempus, i agree if you are able to buy a MKII on the first try do it. I own the 50D and trust me its a great camera but not compared to the full frame MKII but some of us dont have the luxuries that Intempus has. I seen the video of your MKIV by the way intempus.
     
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    Wow. xD Seems whenever I've made a decision, more people come along and shift me the other way 'round. Thanks for your advice. c:
    Making note of the fact that I am not exactly going to be turning professional the day after tomorrow, is there a general consensus that I would be able to do decent work with the 50D?
     
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    I would go with the 5D2. I have one and I love it. You can't beat the full frame advantage. I am an amateur - not a pro by any means and I want FF. No, not trying to confuse you, just my honest opinion.
     
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    From what I've heard here, it sounds like the 5DmkII would be a very wise investment, despite its higher price.

    Right now, I am thinking of going with the mkII, and getting the 50mm F/1.4 or the 50mm F/1.8 (which is very inexpensive, but highly acclaimed from what I've heard and seen from independent parties).
    Seem like a reasonable idea, at least to start out with?
     
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    As far as affordable primes... I'd go with the 85mm f/1.8.

    A 85mm lens has a more "flattering" perspective than a 50mm one. If you're into fashion photography and portraiture, a 50mm lens wouldn't be my first choice.
     
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    Don't get the f/1.8 lens. People that praise it usually aren't all that experienced. Inexperienced people tend to praise things they buy regardless of the actual performance.

    While the f/1.8 lens can take a sharp picture, it is slow to focus, often times misses focus and is built very cheaply. It lacks a useful focus ring as well. For $200 more the f/1.4 is a far better lens and one that will remain useful to you for years.
     

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