Canon EOS 650

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  1. Dimitar

    Dimitar TPF Noob!

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    Hello everyone! I'm very new with film photography, I've recently bought this nice Canon, and did one role so far with it.
    After developing the film I discovered a thing which worries me a lot, 5-6 frames were half-exposed, and 5-6 not exposed at all :-( I suppose it's a problem with the shutter curtain, so I tried clicking on empty with the back of the camera open to see whether it will stuck, but it never got stuck in some 100 clicks.

    Does anyone maybe has any experience with problems like this? I really have no idea what to do. Any help is appreciated.
    Otherwise the camera is amazing, the pictures came out perfect. I totally love it and definitely prefer it over digital :)
     
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    Hello,It seems to me that the problem is not the camera but morelikely the settings you are useing in the cam.Try some different shutter speeds,Play around with the aperture aswell.Also you could have the wrong ISO setting or the wrong ISO film.I dont shoot film I use a digital cam so I could be totaly wrong here but try that anyway and see what happens.
     
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    Steph No longer a newbie, moving up!

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    Did you use flash?
    What film did you use?
    What ISO setting did you use?
     
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    I already tested with different shutter speeds (bulb - 30s - 1/2000) and different apertures, and never saw it to get stuck (well for the slower speeds that is). The ISO was for sure ok, the film is some not so well known - voigtländer ISO 200 with 36 expositions. The camera doesn't have a flash.

    Here are some examples on how it looks:
    http://img27.picoodle.com/img/img27/3/10/1/f_1m_55d0d16.jpg
    http://img27.picoodle.com/img/img27/3/10/1/f_2m_ddd4097.jpg
    http://img34.picoodle.com/img/img34/3/10/1/f_3resizedm_905fc17.jpg
    http://img28.picoodle.com/img/img28/3/10/1/f_4resizedm_831ad11.jpg

    I'm confused that on some the upper part is unexposed while on some it's the lower part.. Now I have a second role, so I'll see how it comes out.
     
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  5. Big Mike

    Big Mike I am Big, I am Mike Staff Member Supporting Member

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    That is almost certainly a stuck shutter. The 650 (and maybe the 630 & 620) had a problem with the shutter bumper. It was made of foam and the type of foam they used, would eventually liquefy and find it's way onto the shutter blades, where it would cause problems like a stuck shutter.

    I have and old 650. When I saw the oily substance on the shutter blades, I cleaned it off with a cotton swab and cleaning fluid.

    I'm not sure why you aren't seeing the problem when you try it with the camera open...perhaps it's just bad luck.

    You could consider having the camera serviced and repaired, but it might be cheaper to just buy a another camera.
     
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    Ah yes, there were small traces of something like a black paint or molten rubber on the left side of the shutter curtain/blades or however it's called. Though it didn't look like oily or sticky, it was like painted on the blades.

    I'll try to clean it up from there, did that work for you?
     
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    Big Mike I am Big, I am Mike Staff Member Supporting Member

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    What you are seeing, may be the remnants of a previous cleaning. I never noticed a problem with mine, but when I first saw the oily substance, I cleaned it up right away...but the spot where I cleaned it never looked the same...but it continued to work just fine.

    It's possible that you shutter is just worn out. These were the very first Canon EOS cameras, and were the choice of many pros at the time. It's quite possible that your camera has been heavily used for a long time.
     

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