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Hi I'm looking to upgrade and I was going to get this camera. Anyone have any reviews for it?
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Oh, good to see it is your day to be the party pooper. I have to check the schedule, I think I have Thursday this week.As always I will be the party pooper and remind that the Canon T5 has a very old sensor on it and I dont know what camera you currently have but I wouldn't call buying a camera with a 7 years old sensor on it an upgrade.
Canon has been using the same old sensor all the way from the T2i, T3i, T4i, T5i, T5 and now T6.
Its an 18MP sensor which was good back in the days but today leaves a lot to be desired especially in low light performance and dynamic range.
I am not saying its not capable of making good pictures, of course it is but it was left way behind its competitors.
What Canon camera would I call an upgrade ?
The Canon T6i or T6s are excellent cameras with good sensor but I wouldn't go bellow them as you are getting back into old sensor technology.
goodguy said:As always I will be the party pooper and remind that the Canon T5 has a very old sensor on it and I dont know what camera you currently have but I wouldn't call buying a camera with a 7 years old sensor on it an upgrade.
Canon has been using the same old sensor all the way from the T2i, T3i, T4i, T5i, T5 and now T6.
Its an 18MP sensor which was good back in the days but today leaves a lot to be desired especially in low light performance and dynamic range.
I am not saying its not capable of making good pictures, of course it is but it was left way behind its competitors.
What Canon camera would I call an upgrade ?
The Canon T6i or T6s are excellent cameras with good sensor but I wouldn't go bellow them as you are getting back into old sensor technology.
goodguy said:As always I will be the party pooper and remind that the Canon T5 has a very old sensor on it and I dont know what camera you currently have but I wouldn't call buying a camera with a 7 years old sensor on it an upgrade.
Canon has been using the same old sensor all the way from the T2i, T3i, T4i, T5i, T5 and now T6.
Its an 18MP sensor which was good back in the days but today leaves a lot to be desired especially in low light performance and dynamic range.
I am not saying its not capable of making good pictures, of course it is but it was left way behind its competitors.
What Canon camera would I call an upgrade ?
The Canon T6i or T6s are excellent cameras with good sensor but I wouldn't go bellow them as you are getting back into old sensor technology.
It's kind of like the way Canon users constantly keep raving abut the exciting new developments in pagers and home answering machines, and touting the exciting, state-of-the-art stuff Canon has been recycling since 2009, utterly unaware or deliberately ignoring newer technological advances that "other" companies have sunk hundreds of millions of Yen into developing.
I think Nikon lost the #1 sales in unit volume probably around 1992, but I'm not a real sales follower, so I could easily be wrong on that end date. Nippon Kogaku (Nikon) was #1 in 35mm "system camera" sales for a long time, from 1959 to at least the mid-1980's, but then again, there really were only two true "system" 35mm SLRS. Yes, as the market leader, Canon does not need to work harder...they have let their sensor manufacturing fall into horrible decline, and they keep churning out cameras with substandard sensor performance since 2007 in the pro market, and since 2009 in the consumer and prosumer segments. Since they are the leader in sales, and since consumer and mid-level cameras make up the huuuuuuuge preponderance of unit sales, they really do not have any incentive to make better sensors. Same thing as McDonald's...high volume, low prices, constant advertising in print and TV media, keeps the "machine" rolling along as the top dog in the low-end food market.
Sales volume numbers/rankings tend to favor lower-cost, cheaper-to-make products. I guess since Hyundai sells more cars than BMW or Mercedes, it logically follows that Hyundai is the better automobile, and has better tech and better performance. Right? Walmart is America's #1 retailer, and is filled with great stuff! Fine furnishings, amazing clothes, top-shelf electronics. Right? The best sh*+ is at Walmart!
Canon's high-megapixel, HIGH-noise 50MP sensor is a joke compared against the new 42-MP Sony sensor. Canon is just terribly behind, but they are McDonald's, and that McDouble at $1.39 is one hell of a lunch item.
JacaRanda said:In some way I am hoping to see a decent amount switching over to Nikon, so I can maybe take advantage and get a used lens (500 f4 II) (300 2.8 II) that I am convinced I need. It's killing me to shoot at F8 with the Tamron. So much that I have not used it in a while. Maybe the rumored Canon 200-600 non L lens is in my future - as long as I don't have to stay stuck on F'n 8.
Thank you and good info. It's a bit intriguing. I know not everyone digs that deep into research, but with the internet and soooo much information out there (even some false), I just keep wondering how in the hellsinki they stay afloat (in the repeated use of old sensor stuff). What I think about most is all those people that don't really care (picture takers vs. photographers), and all of us (where I fit in) that see great or good or satisfactory images from those same cameras with old sensors, and then all the people I see out birdographing with maybe 8 or 9 out of 10 using Canons. It certainly helps when many can afford and have L lenses, and not many have T-whatevers. Most with 7D something or better.
In some way I am hoping to see a decent amount switching over to Nikon, so I can maybe take advantage and get a used lens (500 f4 II) (300 2.8 II) that I am convinced I need. It's killing me to shoot at F8 with the Tamron. So much that I have not used it in a while. Maybe the rumored Canon 200-600 non L lens is in my future - as long as I don't have to stay stuck on F'n 8.
Honestly man today when you have amazing cameras like the 7D II and D500 its a good time to be a bird photographer, such amazing tools for such fun task, only thing you need is money to be able to afford such expensive hobbyYup, there has to be some of every scenario. If I was buying a camera for just me, even 4 years ago, I would have purchased Nikon. However, I may have regretted it to a certain degree because the overwhelming majority of people I run into shooting wildlife are using Canon. I had no idea that was what I would end up enjoying most. Many times I have shared info, how to's etc. so it helps a bit to know the system also.
Anyway, was truly interested in some of the background; not for debate, but general info.
Honestly man today when you have amazing cameras like the 7D II and D500 its a good time to be a bird photographer, such amazing tools for such fun task, only thing you need is money to be able to afford such expensive hobbyYup, there has to be some of every scenario. If I was buying a camera for just me, even 4 years ago, I would have purchased Nikon. However, I may have regretted it to a certain degree because the overwhelming majority of people I run into shooting wildlife are using Canon. I had no idea that was what I would end up enjoying most. Many times I have shared info, how to's etc. so it helps a bit to know the system also.
Anyway, was truly interested in some of the background; not for debate, but general info.
With the T6i/s 80D and D7200/D500 the differences between Canon and Nikon is too small, its more about brand loyalty.
Me I like Nikon because it starts with the letter "N", I mean "C" is so yesterdays letter isnt it ? LOL