OK, long post. Re-posted in proper forum, I hope. I bought a new Canon Pixma Pro9000 mk11. I read everything I could find on color management and I'm still confused. I have LR3 and CS5. I have been doing most of my pp in lr3 but decided to use cs5 for printing. I have my D300s set for aRgb and raw and have been using ProPhoto RGB in lr3 and cs5. I have my monitor (Dell 2407wfp) calibrated with i one. The print I've been getting are ok but not great, a little washed and incorrect tint. I have the printer driver set for app control and I have tried canon pro plus glossy II, pro semi-gloss, and canon matte and set the appropriate tab in the printer driver. The glossy II seems the best If I put the icc profile in cs5 and set the printer for the correct paper, it really sucks. I am using cs5 with soft proofing and I can see the badness there. If I set cs5 back to prophoto the prints and proof are closer. If I put the icc profile through the chain it is worse than all others. So, Where do I start? Do I put the ICC in cs5 and re-import and re-edit or stay with prophoto and play with the drivers? I think I have read or checked 50 google links so, Thanks for any specific advice. In the last few hours since I 1st posted in the digital forum I have used Prophoto RGB in the proof setting and Plus Glossy II and I think I'm pretty close. The wife likes the grandkid 8 x 10s anyway. I still don't understand the ICC results though.