Canon Q: Should colour space be set to sRGB or Adobe RGB?

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  1. Lazy Photographer

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    On page 96 of the Canon T2i manual it recommends leaving the colour space setting on sRGB, which I did. But, in a course I'm taking right now the teacher went through all our camera settings and wants us to change the colour space to Adobe RGB, which I have done. In retrospect I really should have gotten a second opinion before making that change.

    So I'm hoping some of the more experienced Canon shooters can help me out here.

    The manual claims that in Adobe RGB images will look more subdued on a sRGB personal computer environment and with printers not compatible with Design Rule for Camera File System 2.0. Post processing will therefore be required.

    I don't print my photos at home, I send them out.
     
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    I'd ask the people I send my stuff to print.

    Generally I leave mine in sRGB as I don't really print much.
     
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    Most printers like Mpix and Adorama ( and all of your local ones like walgreens, costco, and walmart ) will only print in sRGB. Usually if you are using an inkjet printer at home, you can usually print in a wider gamut like AdobeRGB. I know some labs print in other colorspaces but I have yet to see any. Of course I do not usually look at really high end places the the elite pros use. I would shoot in sRGB. Or if you are worried, shoot in adobeRGB and then have photoshop set to switch them to sRGB when editing that way the RAW file stays adobeRGB incase you ever need it.

    Also, the web uses sRGB so if you upload to say Flickr or photobucket, you will need sRGB or it may not display properly.
     
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    Did your instructor explain to you why to change the settings?



    You could always change back to the sRGB when not in class.
     
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    Generally I'd shoot in RAW mode whereupon your sRGB or AdobeRGB setting matters not as you can change this during RAW processing at any point (you can also change the colourspace of a shot during regular editing - even if its a JPEG - without worries).

    I would get your instructor to go through his/her reasoning for the change - especailly when sRGB is the internet and printing standard currently. Adobe RGB is more the standard for highend printing firms.

    Essentailly with AdobeRGB you get more change to play and toy with the shot in editing - more change to push settings without having the backgrounds get banding and the like. However you have to know how to edit and how to see this in order to get the most out of this mode. You also have to know to change things back to sRGB when saving a copy for the net.
     
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    In my intermediate class we discuss the various color space, including the pros and cons. This is a personal decision that i then leave up to the individual student, including that they fine out what color space is being used at the local that may be doing their printing.

    I do believe it is important as one advances that they begin to know what their choices may be and then make their own decision and preferences.
     
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    Thanks everyone. I'm simply too green at this to get much value out of Adobe RGB, I think. The few photos I do print up get done at a photography store called Blacks here in Toronto. I'll see what they say. But I really don't print up enough of my shots to matter. My next class is Wednesday night and I'll ask the instructor why he likes the Adobe colour space. I know his gallery specializes in large format Giclee prints, so maybe that's why he recommends the Adobe RGB.

    Thanks for your help and advice.


     
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    We really aren't being given "choices" in the way you describe. He walked around the table and picked up each of our cameras to check the settings and then told us what he was going to change as he did it. He changed mine to shoot RAW instead of jpeg. After he handed back my camera I switched it right back because I had two shoots in the morning and had never processed a raw file before and was afraid to chance it for now. There's a lady in our class who has shot only in auto and even she was forced into RAW. I highly suspect she won't have a clue what to do with a raw file.
     
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    He sounds like a very poor teacher if that is his approach. HE might know his stuff but if he fails to explain the whys to his students (or even the hows) then I seriously can't see you progressing.

    It's hard to judge when not there ones self and also when its only after one class - but next time ask questions - lots of questions. Each time he makes choice he must be able to justify that choice not just for himself but also (where he is telling you to shoot diffrently) for yourself as well. Like shifting to RAW instead of JPEG - tell him you've never shot not know how to use a RAW and ask why you can't do RAW+JPEG as you get used to working with the RAWs.
     
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    goodness, how awful. Just what level is this class?

    I make many suggestions in class but certainly try to explain why, and RAW if this a beginners group. Leads me to ask one of my sessions tonight if they are understanding the "suggestions"
     
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    It's supposed to be an intermediate/advanced class. To be fair, the lady in the class should really be in the beginner class. She has no clue about the relationship between aperture, shutter speed and ISO. She was asking good questions but IMHO not getting complete answers. The thing is, however, there are only three of us in the class so there should be lots of time to give her some extra attention. I certainly wouldn't mind and would no doubt learn something from it.

    This week we're delving into Lightroom. I downloaded a trial version of Lightroom3 but haven't had time to go through it yet. We're also learning how to use on/off camera flash, which is much of the reason I signed up for this course.
     
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    yeah a little forceful in his approach to class teaching it sounds like to me. At minimum should teach you how to use a certain file if he is going to force use you to use that type, whether .raw or adobe.
     

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