Can't seem to wrap my head around color chems

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  1. frXnz kafka

    frXnz kafka TPF Noob!

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    So I've been developing my own B&W film for years now, and I feel it's time to move onto color processes. Thing is, I can't figure out what exactly I need to buy for chemicals.

    I'm interested in both E-6 and C-41. If someone could give me a list of things I new for one or the other (or both!), I would greatly appreciate it. I'm mostly interested in Kodak chems, but would be open to other brands if you've have good luck with them.
     
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    Since you already have B&W film developing gear you should only really need
    either a C-41 kit or an E-6 kit. Freestyle sells Arista and Unicolor kits.

    Kodak doesn't offer a C-41 kit for the home user
    See:
    http://www.kodak.com/global/en/service/faqs/faq0802.shtml

    but they do offer the C-41 chemistry in separate packaging.


    Kodak does offer a home type E-6 kit (or they did recently).
    See:
    http://www.kodak.com/global/en/professional/products/chemistry/e6Kit/e6Index.jhtml?pq-path=13815

    http://www.kodak.com/global/en/professional/support/techPubs/ti2443/ti2443.pdf
     
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    Are the color chemicals reusable? $34 for a 1 qt. E-6 kit doesn't seem to make sense when I need 18 ounces for one roll of 120. I know B&W chems are reusable, and even the developer can be reused once. Is this true for color as well?

    Thanks for the Freestyle links, BTW. I hadn't even thought of looking there.
     
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    ^ You'd have to check the instructions for the particular chemicals you decide to use.
     
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    Haha, good call. Apparently I didn't wear my common sense today. I think I've figured out my confusion with the Kodak chemicals. Thanks for your help.
     
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    Yes, if you follow the guidelines you should be able to get 4-5 rolls of 120 with 18 ounces of chemicals.

    I typically mix up 1000ml at a time and process 8-10 rolls of 120 over the course of a couple days.

    A lot more expensive then b/w development but cheap as hell compared to the cost of e6 development these days.
     
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    I would like to know how much of E-6 chemicals if i want to develop about 10 rolls? I would like to compare the price of the chemicals kit to develop 10 rolls at least and developing 10 rolls in the lab and see which is cheaper. Same with C-41, the problem is we have a lab that charge C-41 and B&W at the same price, E-6 a bit more, and the problem is that i sent all my color film to that lab and they developed all my films, but i didn't send them any B&W yet, and just last week i started to develop my own B&W, and yesterday i sent 2 more films 120 [E-6, C-41] and i hope to get it tonight and i asked them to scan one of them to compare with my scans at home.
     
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    Did you make any progress towards choosing a chem kit frXnz kafka?

    C-41 colour is something I've been finding myself drawn towards trying although haven't as yet.
    The closest I have to colour chems are two or three twin-bath powder chems which are Ukrainian.....as are the instructions :er:

    It's not even possible for me to use an online translation service as I'd have to type it in Ukrainian which isn't possible, the info & instruction sheets could be scanned in though....don't think my OCR s/ware is good enough to pick out the almost Russian looking letters though


    One kit I have been considering is Tetenal C-41, from what I've read about it, the process doesn't seem too different from B&W film?.....I believe the temps are fairly critical though?

    Definitely something I intend to try here as it's nice to shoot colour now and again no matter how much I like B&W!......infact nearly all my colour shots are digital :blushing:

    Best Regards, Andy
     
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    Using the three bath kit from freestyle the recommended chemical amount for 10 rolls would be 1200ml.

    The gallon kit costs $75 and is good for around 32 rolls. Which is a bit under $2.50 a roll--less then half that of the cheapest place I've seen online.
     
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    I am also very interested in processing colour film, even my students insist on doing their own colour processing but I've never done it myself. I found this page:
    Developer formulae, dilutions, and times
    About a 2-bath C-41 process, I can't seem to find what is the CD-4 listed there. Can someone help? Thnx!
     
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    The short answer:
    Photographers' Formulary Inc.



    The long answer:
     
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    Now the main and HUMONGOUS problem is getting the thing in Mexico City! Thanks for the quick reply!
     

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