Chiropractor?

[fmw]

During my last visit to a chiropractor, I left the office with three broken ribs. Obviously, I've never been back. I hope your adventure with it is better than mine.

 

[photogoddess]

Thanks PG and M for the advice, I will look dr. Walker up. Sorry to say but the pain has not gone away much. Perhaps a little. So, today I'm seeing the dr. (chiro) one more time and tomorrow I'm going to get my physician to recommend an MRI. Taking the week off from work since I can't sit on a chair. Darn, this sux...

Good luck with everything and get better soon. :hugs:

 

[terri]

I'm not a huge fan of chiropractors, though I know it's like anything else - there are good ones and not-so-good ones. (I tend to want someone with an MD after their name, though.)

I hope you're telling your MD every little thing, Dimitri! You might need to see another kind of specialist, maybe an orthopaedic. They're not just for knee injuries, you know.

Take care and good luck. :hug:: Let us know how it goes! Hope it gets better soon.

 

[Digital Matt]

I'll share with you my brief story. I went to a grand opening of a chiropractor's office once, as he was giving free x-rays and exams for your first visit. He determined that I have all sorts of back problems, which I knew already, as I've been in pain for years. After reviewing the xrays, he determined I would need weekly adjustments for I dunno, months and months. Now, since I've had a heart transplant 9 years ago, I always check with my doctors before doing anything, and I told this chiropractor, "I'm going to check with my cardiologists at the Cleveland Clinic (#1 heart center in the US *cough*) and make sure they say it's ok to do this treatment". He immediately says, "Well listen, alot of times, doctors aren't very receptive to chiropractic medicine, and they'll probably try and dissuade you from doing it, but I assure, I can help you."

Right then and there, I knew he was full of it. I never did go back there.

 

[craig]

Peace and strength to you man!!! Positive vibes are coming from Jackson to you!!!

I have a grim view of doctors and medicine. Whatever happens do no not let them operate.

 

[ShutteredEye]

I'll share with you my brief story. I went to a grand opening of a chiropractor's office once, as he was giving free x-rays and exams for your first visit. He determined that I have all sorts of back problems, which I knew already, as I've been in pain for years. After reviewing the xrays, he determined I would need weekly adjustments for I dunno, months and months. Now, since I've had a heart transplant 9 years ago, I always check with my doctors before doing anything, and I told this chiropractor, "I'm going to check with my cardiologists at the Cleveland Clinic (#1 heart center in the US *cough*) and make sure they say it's ok to do this treatment". He immediately says, "Well listen, alot of times, doctors aren't very receptive to chiropractic medicine, and they'll probably try and dissuade you from doing it, but I assure, I can help you."

Right then and there, I knew he was full of it. I never did go back there.

Matt:

I've tried to stay out of this thread, mostly because I know I have a really vested interest in chiropractic, mostly because that's what I'm going to school to be. However, while your assessment of this particular chiropractor, (full of it,) may be spot on, he is, in fact correct about most MD's.

In fact the AMA orchestrated a direct, dedicated, and purposeful movement to discredit and stamp out chiropractic, regardless of research that chiropractic is indeed safe and valid. The AMA sent out memo's to member physicians stating it was "unethical to give or receive referrals to or from a chiropractor." This is absolutely false, to the tune of some $95,000,000.00 awarded to chiropractors in a lawsuit against the AMA in the early 1990s. So there is an actual basis to what this chiro said to you.

I'm sorry you had a bad experience, but there those of us that are well educated, with the exact same education as MD's, (in fact I have more hours in biochemistry and microbiology in my coursework than the average medical school). I've already begun building a referral base with local pediatricians (I specialize in pediatric chiropractic,) and have several physicians I already work closely with.

It is true there are bad chiropractors out there. There are also bad MD's out there as well. The difference is, a bad chiropractor might scam you out of some of your money, while a bad MD can easily kill you.

To the original poster:

There is no process that doesn't take time.

Consider this. If you were going to a medical doctor, your first visit would be mostly talking, and some xrays, or MRI. Then he'd probably write you a prescription, or refer you to a surgeon. Your first visit to the surgeon would probably be a mostly talking, maybe some more advanced imaging. My point is that you criticize the chiroprator for talking with you, and trying to include you in your own treatment. It's conservative treatment, and non-invasive. It doesn't damage your body, and it may very well help. Where's the downside?

 

[Mitica100]

Hmm... I've created a debate here without meaning to. All that being said, I'll have to mention that I've had another bout of back problems about 8 years ago, that was even worse since it involved the sciatic nerve. I went to a chiropractor (no longer practicing due to retirement) and in three sessions I was feeling much better. I could feel the improvement from session to session. That's why I was puzzled during last week's visits to this new chiropractor, there was no improvement, it actually got worse after each session. Something was just not right. I'm in the process of doing all the necessary X-rays and an MRI right now but after the findings I will go see another chiropractor. I haven't lost faith in chiropractors but as someone said earlier, there are some good ones and some less good.

 

[Digital Matt]

Matt:

I've tried to stay out of this thread, mostly because I know I have a really vested interest in chiropractic, mostly because that's what I'm going to school to be. However, while your assessment of this particular chiropractor, (full of it,) may be spot on, he is, in fact correct about most MD's.

In fact the AMA orchestrated a direct, dedicated, and purposeful movement to discredit and stamp out chiropractic, regardless of research that chiropractic is indeed safe and valid. The AMA sent out memo's to member physicians stating it was "unethical to give or receive referrals to or from a chiropractor." This is absolutely false, to the tune of some $95,000,000.00 awarded to chiropractors in a lawsuit against the AMA in the early 1990s. So there is an actual basis to what this chiro said to you.

I'm sorry you had a bad experience, but there those of us that are well educated, with the exact same education as MD's, (in fact I have more hours in biochemistry and microbiology in my coursework than the average medical school). I've already begun building a referral base with local pediatricians (I specialize in pediatric chiropractic,) and have several physicians I already work closely with.

It is true there are bad chiropractors out there. There are also bad MD's out there as well. The difference is, a bad chiropractor might scam you out of some of your money, while a bad MD can easily kill you.

To the original poster:

There is no process that doesn't take time.

Consider this. If you were going to a medical doctor, your first visit would be mostly talking, and some xrays, or MRI. Then he'd probably write you a prescription, or refer you to a surgeon. Your first visit to the surgeon would probably be a mostly talking, maybe some more advanced imaging. My point is that you criticize the chiroprator for talking with you, and trying to include you in your own treatment. It's conservative treatment, and non-invasive. It doesn't damage your body, and it may very well help. Where's the downside?

I'm sorry if I offended you. It was certainly not my intent to offend anyone. I did have a bad experience with Chiropractic medicine however, unfortunately. My doctors never told me not to see a chiropractor, only just to be careful that if I'm not starting to feel relief after a few sessions, I should try something else. I've gone the route of physical therapy and exercise, and found that to be the most beneficial for me.

 

[ShutteredEye]

I'm sorry if I offended you. It was certainly not my intent to offend anyone. I did have a bad experience with Chiropractic medicine however, unfortunately. My doctors never told me not to see a chiropractor, only just to be careful that if I'm not starting to feel relief after a few sessions, I should try something else. I've gone the route of physical therapy and exercise, and found that to be the most beneficial for me.

Hey, no worries man. Not offended at all, sorry if I came across that way. It's just something that I run into a lot. The AMA was very effective in it's campaign, unfortunately. It just pains me to see so many patients that I know I can help steered into a life of toxic medications and/or invasive surgury, all because someone thought that chiropractors were going to steal some of the medical doctors market share--(and that's what it boiled down to, proven in a court of law.) If I can't help a patient I'm often the first to refer to an MD.

I've found many medical doctors to be very receptive to me as a professional, albeit usually AFTER they have established that I know what the heck I'm talking about.

I certainly wasn't implying that your MD's don't know what their talking about either, indeed it sounds like they are right on top of the game. I just wanted you to know that as kooky as that particular chiro may have been, he did have a factual basis for saying what he did. That's all.