Color film in b&w print dev?

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  1. Alexandra

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    Yesterday I found this old roll of color Konica 200. I didn't care much about what was on it, but I was curious to see anyway. I didn't feel like taking the time to properly develop color and I'm about to run out of b&w film developer.
    So I had the more or less good idea to use print dev. I mixed some Ilford Multigrade, slightly stronger than 1+99. I didn't know exactly for how long i'd need to develop it, so I went for 8 minutes. (wanted to push it some)

    The results: awfull, overdeveloped, but a few could be suitable for printing. Would be more like a waste of paper, though.

    So I was wondering: If I wouldn't have pushed it and would've done everything carefully, could that kind of thing possibly give something decent?
     
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    I've never tried it, but in my earliest darkroom days accidently processed a roll of Ilford XP2 (a C41 film) in B&W chemicals. I too got awfull, if not interesting overexposed results. Never tried to replicate or improve on the results though.
     
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    Colour film processes a different way to B&W.
    There are 3 emulsions to contend with - sensitive to red, blue and green.
    Initially they process with B&W dev but included in are colour couplers which produce the dyes to make the colour image. The silver is then bleached out with the fix.
    By processing with B&W dev you are getting three B&W negs in one - combined with a yellow filter as part of the tri-pack film.
    Print dev will develop film but it produces rather contrasty results in general.
    The bottom line is - processing colour film as B&W is a waste of time. You won't ever get anything worth using.
     
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    ah well... I'm still happy i didn't waste film dev on it. :)
    that shoud keep me from experimenting with potentially valuable rolls.

    thanks guys.
     
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    You're just getting lazy now...
     
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    No I'm not.

    However, arguing with you would be a waste of energy so I'll let you believe you're right. :roll:
     
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    I've developed colour as BW once before - i think the camera had a few light leaks, but the resulting negs were actually very easy to print even if they weren't that great:

    [​IMG]
     
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    Actually I like the softlook of it. Was that the color film, or the camera ,or filter, or the scan, or my monitor.

    However, I would have loved it, if it had been a verticle crop lol. Sorry couldn't help myself.
     
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    I have a roll of color developed in B&W. I'm out of print dev at the moment but I'll post the results when I print them.
     
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    It reminds me of old french movies. I like it!
    Could you tell us how did you develop it? Chemicals, time, and so on.
    And what was the film?

    I understand that color films developed as B&W should have low contrast
    because of the background hue... How did you print it?

    Thanks!
     
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    I did a roll of 800 in D-76 1:1 and they were a bit underexposed but useable at 12 minutes. The background does change things, normal looking results at about a grade 3 or 3 1/2 magenta filter. And really long exposures compared to normal negs.
     
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    "Fujicolour Superia 800, expired and processed as BW (Rodinal 1+25, 9min)

    Printed at 2stop, 10sec"

    So bascially, it was shockingly easy to print! I don't think I had any kind of grading on (using standard multigrade paper) so maybe i should have another go but crack up the magenta.
     

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