color negative & photoshop

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    is there anyplace online that give instructions on how to convert a color negative to a positive? I've got a set of prints made from the negatives I have and I can't get my photoshop versions to look anything like what I got printed at the printer.

    I'm a graphic designer and am a pretty hardcore user of photoshop so if there's a way to do it, I'll be able to. I need someone to point me in the right direction.
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    Image > Adjustments > Invert
    Then tweak the results.
    What you see on the computer will never be quite the same as what you get with a C-type print. Computers work in RGB whilst prints are CMYK.
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    This is really interesting, I think.
    Perhaps it is a scanning issue.
    Could you post a faithful scan of the print and the negative?

    TIA,

    Lew
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    The problem I'm having is that when I scan the negative it's so red that the red channel of the image is basically the only one that shows up. So I can't tweak the color channels without it looking SUPER grainy

    Here's the images that I've got.

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    What's causing the problem is the masking layer in the film.
    You need to remove it.
    Try Image > Adjustments > Curves.
    Select the White Point eyedropper and click on the clear orange background.
    The cast should go and then do I > A > Invert and tweak it.

    Neg scanners usually come with driver software that removes this colour cast when you scan.
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    I'm getting something that's pretty close. Any advice on getting rid of the grainyness and clearing up the quality aside from just the standard filters?
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    The grain could be caused by not having a high enough resolution when scanning. Try upping it to the max then try Despeckle in Filters.

    Use the Curves dialogue to adjust contrast. Or levels.
    For final colour adjustments Image > Adjustments > Variations.
    Then use the Sharpen filter.
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    Why don't you just send them to a lab and get them scanned professionally.
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    well...

    1) I don't wanna pay $10 when I might be able to do it myself.
    2) I'll get less of what I want and I'll have less control.
    3) I want to do it myself.
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    What scanner do you have?
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    Lew is 110% right, your issue is with the scanner settings
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    When you open your scanner software look for a dropdown box for settings, select color negative scanning if supported by the scanner, if its just a cheapo it may not have the option. H
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    Umm that negative scan looks like the problem. Scanners light up what they are scanning with a light from underneath. Film and Negatives however need to be backlit to get any kind of semi acceptable result. The above image will not get you anything like that. I suppose you could try by putting a piece of paper over the negative and a fluorescent lamp above that and re-scanning but other than that if you don't have a backlight you have little chance of any acceptable result.
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    Hello, if I may intrude, what are the steps and or tricks for B&W? And can this be done on a flat bed (mine only supports 35mm)? I would like to shoot and develop some 120 B&W but don't want to print it just yet.

    mike

    As Garbbz posted as I was typing, can a small mirror be used or would this cause the neg to be out of focus?

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