Could I consider myself a professional photographer....

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  1. Brently

    Brently TPF Noob!

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    Once I sell a picture?
     
  2. ksmattfish

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    I've heard 3 definitions of "professional":

    1) You've made any amount of money selling your work.

    2) You make at least half your income selling your work.

    3) You make all of your income selling your work.

    I fit into #2. Overall, it's a term similar to "fine art"; it's vague and used to describe many very different kinds of people/work. It ends up becoming a marketing term. I've come up with my own definition of "professional" photographer.

    4) You pay taxes on the money you earn doing photography.
     
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    Alison Swiss Army Friend Supporting Member

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    Oh yeah, that would do it! I felt very professional when I paid to make my business into a corporation. That, and when I saw my ad in the yellow pages :)
     
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    Digital Matt alter ego: Analog Matt

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    There's another side, since you mentioned fine art. There's the guy who is a "starving artist" and makes next to nothing from it, yet is professional :p
     
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    I think you will become a real profesional if your photos would be that good that you will be selling them almost everyday for a great amount of money... or... when YOU will be extremely proud if your photos
     
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    ksmattfish Now 100% DC - not as cool as I once was, but still

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    Here's a quote made by Alfred Stieglitz in 1899. It's always been a favorite of mine.

    When I worked at the photo lab I saw plenty of "professional" photographers who didn't know their aperture from their ass :camera: :eek:ldman:

    "Professional" tends to imply a high standard of quality from someone who is educated in the techniques, but these days, in many cases I think it merely means you make money at it.
     
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    My goal is to be the most professional amateur I can be :wink:

    I worked as a pro along time ago, it sucked. Can't take pictures of what you want to and everybody's all "Can you make me look skinny?". Taking pics of art work was OK, it didn't talk back :wink:
     
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    This debate also ties in with the classifying of cameras in today's market. Consumer, Prosumer, and Professional. A great photographer can take a great photo with a $15 Holga, and a bad photographer can take a horrible photo with an $8000 Pro camera.
     
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    Great quote ksmatfish!
     
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    Amen to that!!! :cheers:
     
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    To me a professional is someone while doing a certin tasks no longer questions rather or not they are actualy a professional at that specific task.
     
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    heyyy, i've sold some pictures before, does that make me profesional :shock: haha cause I consider myself far from profesional
     

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