When i took these photos, i found an really interesting, however, the lighting was crap. These were taken at sunrise, so the typical problem of I have with getting the exposure right was was an issue. The sun was too strong and the end result was that the colours washed out and details were lost. In short, crap photos. So i decided to convert them to b & w and experiment with some channel mixer settings to make 'em a bit more palatable: Not the best that i've taken, but i did spend heaps of time trying to salvage the work here. Lol, at least for me, I can't see how folks say that pshop makes it any easier to make crap photos good, i've struggled with these!!! any comments/criticisms/suggestions welcome here!