CSC, EVIL or Reflex - 300-400€

[victorgm]

Hi!!

first of all many thanks for letting me being part of this forum!!

I would like to ask for your advice, as i would like to buy a new digital camera with an aprox budget of 350€.

At first, i was thinking on a basic reflex, like Canon ESD-1200D with 18-55mm (350€) or Nikon D3200 18-55mm (360€), but i've recently discovered the "new" CSC o EVIL, and i'm a little bit lost!

"Conditions":

- (Obviously) As good as possible Jpeg photo quality (basic reflex level)

- Use: travel and architectonical photos (buildings, cities, landscapes, and some portrait) - i don't need a super zoom, maybe it's even better a lens with the option of a little wide angle..

- Good quality recording video (would be nice with "slow recording video mode" included)

- Flash incorporated

- No need to exchange lens (if the default is good enough)

- No need to edit RAWs

- Weight somehow important

- The viewfinder is not necessary (although it is always preferable), if the screen can be moved (the angle).

I've discovered these models:

1. Nikon 1 J4 + 10-30mm PD-Zoom 350€ (Nikon 1 J4 Systemkamera 3 Zoll Kit inkl. 10-30mm: Amazon.de: Kamera)

2. Nikon 1 V2 + 10-30 VR 370€ (Suchergebnis auf Amazon.de für: nikon 1 v2)

3. Sony Alpha 5000 + SEL-P1650 340€ (Sony Alpha 5000 Systemkamera 3 Zoll schwarz inkl.: Amazon.de: Kamera)

4. Sony Alpha 5100 + SEL-P1650 480€ (Sony Alpha 5100 Systemkamera mit ultraschnellem: Amazon.de: Kamera)

5. Sony DSC-RX100 + 22-100mm 350€ (Sony DSC-RX100 Cyber-shot Digitalkamera 3 Zoll schwarz: Amazon.de: Kamera)

6. Sony NEX-3NLB + SEL-P 16-50mm 315€ (Sony NEX-3NLB Systemkamera 3 Zoll inkl. SEL-P 16-50mm: Amazon.de: Kamera)

7. Canon EOS M + EF-M 18-55mm 370€ o + EF-M 22mm 470€ (Canon EOS M Systemkamera 3 Zoll Kit inkl. EF-M 18-55mm: Amazon.de: Kamera)

8. Fujimilm X-A1 + XC16-50mm 395€ (Fujifilm X-A1 Systemkamera 3 Zoll inkl. XC16-50mm Kit: Amazon.de: Kamera)

What do you think about them? Reflex or CSC? maybe another one you know with better results?

Many thanks!!

 

[chuasam]

I've tried out the J4...the ergonomics are horrific.

 

[victorgm]

Thanks chuasam!!

Could someone please help me?

I was thinking about what i said about exchanging lens...and i think is was because my inexperience...and for sure after some time i would like to improve my camera, maybe with another lens...but i would like just to choose a right one from the first step!

As i would use it for architecture and landscapes, i would be interested in something close to wide angle, but with a little zoom if possible for portraits and details.

I am interested in the mirrorless because of the size and weight, something important if you carry it all the time during travels, but always if i don't loose image and video quality.

I'm reading about these models, what do you think about them?

1. Panasonic Lumix DCM-GF6 + 14-42mm Lumix G Vario 395€ (Panasonic DMC-GF6KEG9T LUMIX Systemkamera 3 Zoll inkl.: Amazon.de: Kamera)

2. Panasonic Lumix DCM-G5 + 14-42mm Lumix G Vario 360€ (Panasonic Lumix DMC-G5KEG-K Systemkamera 3 Zoll schwarz: Amazon.de: Kamera)

3. Olympus PEN E-PL5 + 14-42mm 340€ (Olympus PEN E-PL5 Systemkamera 3 Zoll Kit inkl. 14-42: Amazon.de: Kamera)

4. Nikon D3200 SLR + AF-S DX 18-55 VRII 370€ (Nikon D3200 SLR-Digitalkamera 2,9 Zoll Kit inkl. AF-S: Amazon.de: Kamera)

5. Canon EOS 1200D SLR + 18-55 IS 340€ (Canon EOS 1200D SLR-Digitalkamera 3 Zoll Kit inkl.: Amazon.de: Kamera)

Many thanks again!!