Dating and identifying cameras

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  1. Mitica100

    Mitica100 Moderator Staff Member Supporting Member

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    Well, time has come to leave a bit of info for all of you collectors out there. I'll try to cover as much as I can.

    HIDDEN CODES:

    Hasselblad camera owners can identify the year of manufacture by looking at the following code:

    V H P I C T U R E S
    1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0

    So, on the bodies and film backs you'll see a couple of letters from the above code, like UP,that means it was made in 73 (1973) and so on.

    DECKEL SHUTTERS:

    Compound is the first one, marked on the shutter, under the lens. The shutter appeared first around 1905.

    Compur was the next one, introduced in 1912. Original Compur used a small dial to set speeds. Dial was located at the 12 o'clock position, cocking at 3 o'clock and a dial marked ZDM or ZBT at 9 o'clock. It is also known as the dial-set Compur. Next Compur variation, started in 1929, moved the shutter speed setting from the dial to a ring concentric with the shutter housing. This was known as rim-set Compur. Next Compur was the Compur Rapid, named so because of the added speed of 1/500 (from 1/250 on the older Compurs) and it was introduced in 1935. The Compurs lasted until the fifties.


    FED (Russian) CAMERAS SERIAL NUMBERS (just in case...):wink: :
    1934 31-4,000
    1935 4,001-16,000
    1936 16,001-31,000
    1937 31,001-53,000
    1938 53,001-82,000
    1939 82,001-116,000
    1940 116,001-148,000
    1941 148,001-175,000
    1942-1945 No camera production (war)
    1946 175,001-176,000 (small production)
    1947 176,001-186,000
    1948 186,001-203,000
    1949 203,001-221,000
    1950 221,001-248,000
    1951 248,001-289,000
    1952 289,001-341,000
    1953 341,001-424,000
    1954 424,001-560,000
    1955 560,001-700,000

    In general, Russian made cameras made between 1950s and 1980s show the year of manufacture as the first two digits of the serial number. Hence a SN of 640001217 denotes it was made in 1964.

    Look for other interesting posts on identifying lenses and films by year of introduction.
     
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  2. Mitica100

    Mitica100 Moderator Staff Member Supporting Member

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    Yet another way to identify the age of your camera. It will tell you what kind of film it needs (inside the film chamber) or perhaps you find an old roll in an old camera...:)


    101-1895
    102-1895
    103-1896
    104-1897
    105-1989
    106-1898
    107-1898
    108-1898
    109-1898
    110-1898 (it's a different 110 than the newer one below)
    111-1898
    112-1898
    113-1898
    114-1898
    115-1898
    116-1899
    117-1900
    118-1900
    119-1900
    120-1901
    121-1902
    122-1903
    123-1904
    124-1905
    126-1906 (different than the newer one below)
    127-1912
    128-1912
    129-1912
    130-1912
    616-1932
    620-1932
    135-1935
    828-1935 (also known as the Bantam)
    126-1963 (the newer version)
    110-1973 (the newer version, known as Pocket Instamatic)

    The above is info only on American made film, perhaps we can gather some more info on other films from our TPF friends...:wink:
     
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    Mitica100 Moderator Staff Member Supporting Member

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    This is not a dating system but rather a code used by Nikon in indicating the number of lens elements used in a Nikkor lens. As far as I know it was used until the mid 1970s. The wide angle lenses didn't have this coding but rather had a W engraved. The red C found on many Nikon lenses made in the 50s means the lens was coated.

    U - 1 element
    B - 2 elements
    T - 3 elements
    Q - 4 elements
    P - 5 elements
    H - 6 elements
    S - 7 elements
    O - 8 elements
    N - 9 elements
    D - 10 elements.

    Hope this helps.
     
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    Mitica100 Moderator Staff Member Supporting Member

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    1912 - 173400-200500
    1913 - 208500-249350
    1914 - 249900-252700
    1915 - 282800-284500
    1916 - 285200-288100
    1917 - 289000-298150
    1918 - 298200-322750
    1919 - 322800-351600
    1920 - 375200-419800
    1921 - 433250-438350
    1922 - 438900-498000
    1923 - 561250-578300
    1924 - 631850-648500
    1925 - 652200-681751
    1926 - 686800-703200
    1927 - 722200-798250
    1928 - 903100-908150
    1929 - 919800-1016900
    1930 - 1020500-1239700
    1931 - 1239701-1365600
    1932 - 1365601-1389300
    1933 - 1436650-1456000
    1934 - 1500450-1590000
    1935 - 1615750-1752300
    1936 - 1774800-1942800
    1937 - 1950100-2220000
    1938 - 2268000-2528000
    1939 - 2528001-2651200
    1940 - 2652000-2678000
    1941 - 2678001-2790350
    1942 - 2799600-??? (I don't have enough info on this)
     
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    Year: From: To:
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    1933 156001 195000
    1934 195001 236000
    1935 236001 284600
    1936 284601 345000
    1937 345001 416500
    1938 416501 490000
    1939 490001 538500
    1940 538501 565000
    1941 565001 582290
    1942 582295 593000
    1943 593001 594880
    1944 594881 595000
    1945 595001 601000
    1946 601001 633000
    1947 633001 647000
    1948 647001 682000
    1949 682001 765000
    1950 765001 840000
    1951 840001 950000
    1952 950001 1051000
    1953 1051001 1124000
    1954 1124001 1236000
    1955 1236001 1333000
    1956 1333001 1459000
    1957 1459001 1548000
    1958 1548001 1645300
    1959 1645301 1717000
    1960 1717001 1827000
    1961 1827001 1913000
    1962 1913001 1967100
    1963 1967101 2015700
    1964 2015701 2077500
    1965 2077501 2156300
    1966 2156301 2236500
    1967 2236501 2254400
    1968 2254401 2312750
    1969 2312751 2384700
    1970 2384701 2468500
    1971 2468501 2503100
    1972 2503101 2556500
    1973 2556501 2663400
    1974 2663401 2731900
    1975 2731901 2761100
    1976 2761101 2809400
    1977 2809401 2880600
    1978 2880601 2967200
    1979 2967201 3013600
    1980 3013601 3087000
    1981 3087001 3160500
    1982 3160500 3249100
    1983 3249101 3294900
    1984 3294901 3346200
    1985 3346201 3383200
    1986 3383201 3422890
    1987 3422891 3455870 (that's all I have folks!)
     
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    Name: Focal/Aperture: Filter info:
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    Super-Elmar R 15mm/f3.5 built in
    Fisheye-Elmarit R 16mm/f2.8 built in
    Elmarit R 19mm/f2.8 N/A
    Super-Angulon R 21mm/f4 S8.5
    Elmarit R 24mm/f2.8 S8
    Elmarit R 28mm/f2.8 S7
    PA-Curtagon R 35mm/f4 S8
    Elmarit R 35mm/f2.8 E55/S7
    Summicron R 35mm/f2 E55/S7
    Summicron R 50mm/f2 E55/S7
    Summilux R 50mm/f1.4 E55/S7
    Macro-Elmarit R 60mm/f2.8 E55/S7
    Angenieux-Zoom 45-90mm/f2.8 E67/S8
    Vario-Elmar 75-200mm/f4.5 E55/S7
    Summilux R 80mm/f1.4 E67/S8
    Elmarit R 90mm/f2.8 E55/S7
    Summicron R 90mm/f2 E55/S7
    Macro-Elmar R 100mm/f4 E55/S7
    Elmarit R 135mm/f2.8 E55/S7
    Elmar R 180mm/f4 E55/S7
    Apo-Telyt R 180mm/f3.4 E60/S7.5
    Elmarit R 180mm/f2.8 E67/S8
    Telyt R 250mm/f4 E67/S8
    Telyt R 350mm/f4.8 E77
    Telyt R 400mm/f6.8 S7/S8
    MR-Telyt R 500mm/f8 E77 *
    Telyt R 560mm/f6.8 S7
    Telyt S 800mm/f6.3 S7
    ================================================

    * 5 special filters are part of the outfit.
     
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    aggiezach Yup...

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    WOW! Thanks for all that info yo!

    Zach :D
     
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    Name: Focal/Aperture: Filter info:
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    Elmarit M 21mm/f2.8 E49
    Elmarit M 28mm/f2.8 E49
    Summicron M 35mm/f2 E39
    Summilux M 35mm/f1.4 S7
    Summicron M 50mm/f2 E39
    Summilux M 50mm/f1.4 E43
    Noctilux M 50mm/f1 E58
    Summilux M 75mm/f1.4 E60
    Tele-Elmarit M 90mm/f2.8 E39
    Summicron M 90mm/f2 E49
    Tele-Elmar M 135mm/f4 E39
    Elmarit M 135mm/f2.8 E55

    Following are lenses for Visoflex 3 and Universal Focusing Bellows:

    Elmar V 65mm/f3.5 S6
    Tele-Elmar M 135mm/f4 E39
    Elmarit M 135mm/f2.8 E55
    Telyt V 200mm/f4 E58
    Telyt V 280mm/f4.8 S8
    Telyt V 400mm/f6.8 S7
    Telyt V 560mm/f6.8 S7
    Telyt S 800mm/f6.3 S7
     
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    HOLY COW!!! Are you going to write a book next? :D Thanks for all the info!
     
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    :lmao: :lmao: :lmao:

    No, I'm just quoting things from my books. On second thought... Naaah! :lmao:
     
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    ferny TPF Noob!

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