Me trying to learn composition when I can't get right up close - I'm slowly getting there I think, though afew pointers would be helpfull. These are 4 shots show as is with no cropping performed (though other editing is done). All taken with Canon 400D, Canon 70-200mm f2.8 IS L + 1.4teleconverter f5, ISO 200, 1/500sec link to larger: http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2506/4096197495_08bb7940fc_o.jpg I think this one came out reasonably well, though I think shaving of a little from the right and lower parts just to move the deer more onto a line of 3rds. f4, ISO 200, 1/500sec link to larger: http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2780/4096957256_b8f3cf115a_o.jpg I love his puff of breath, but the ring around the tree really distracts for me. Even though cropping out the ring makes the shot feel uncomfortably framed - at least to me - so I think a little off the left as well to try and make the distance behind the deer a little less. f5.6, ISO 200, 1/200sec link to larger: http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2707/4096955988_a470ff12b5_o.jpg After editing this one I really feel the whole of the green base needs to go. I was trying to be more creative and I think it would have worked better to have had the red autumn colours dominating the top rather than the greens below (though of course then chances are the white sky would have been a pain in the far upper sections). f4.5, ISO 200, 1/800sec link to larger: http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2597/4096198673_9fcace47ea_o.jpg Left and down! Gah if only I had shot like that in the field to capture his legs in the frame and no wasted space on the right. Sadly I think this shot shows that my focusing for the day was in the wrong mindset. I was shooting with my middle point being the only one active, since I prefer having control over what the camera focuses on and also its the only crosspoint I have (so I trust it a little more than the rest). I really do think that (on reflection) I should have been letting all the AF points be active since the deer were the only big features in any frame rather then reeds or other forground distractions. So there we go - any comments/crits are welcome, thank you PS my monitor is horrible at the moment, a very cheap flatscreen so contrast is a right pain to work with at the moment. These look "good to me" but I would welcome any input as to how they look to others.