ok, some of you may have read my earler thread about my problems with getting PanF+ to correctly develope. i took my film and question to a local photography store that is very knowledgble with film and they were equally miffed. they noticed that the numbers along the bottom of my film were equally underdeveloped thus rulling out an exposure issue and making it only a developement problem. furthermore because the same developer worked with HP5 and T-max 100 and Ilford Delta 100, we decided that it was only a problem with the developement of PanF+. Furthermore, i contacted ilford and they were also miffed as to why this was happening. They suggested i Use the ilford developer DD-X. i might try it, but right now im working my way though a batch of Xtol and im very happy with it (minus the panF+) I want to use this film, i have done quite a bit of searching on it because of this problem and i have yet to find someone who doesnt like this film. It sounds exactly like what i want from a film. so, how do i figure out the proper developement time of this film for me? my plan was to buy a roll, and with out exposing it, cut it into approximate 6 frame strips and develope each strip to a different time. then when i look at the developed strips i can compair the numbers on the bottom to see at what time they turn fully black. thus meaning the film was properly developed. This is my idea, though i know there are other ways to determine the proper developement of a type of film. are there other ways? or how do i go about finding the proper developement time for this film for me?