Did I buy the wrong brand??

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  1. Kofman13

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    In my sig you can find my camera info. I'm unhappy with the un-lifelike results I'm getting with my camera. I used my friends canon xt with 50mm 1.8 lens and I got amazing results with knowing Jack about dslr. Now I'm using my setup and just I can't get results I got with friends setup. I get great out door shots with lots of light. But terrible indoor. I've tried every combination of setting and I just can't get it I'm getting frustrated. Is it because my lens? Should i spend $200 on a 25mm pancake 2.8 lens? A 50mm 1.8 lens is $400 but I can't afford that. But canon xti with 50mm 1.8 is a little more used than just the Olympus 50mm alone. I'm going nuts? What should i do? Should I get a pancake for $200? I will post comparison shots between the shots I like from the XT and 50mm and what I hate from my camera when I get home
     
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    Well you're probably getting better results with his because he has a great fast lens. 1.8 is very fast compared to 3.5-5.6 especially indoors in poor lighting. Have you tried increasing your iso? That is about all you can do. I would most likely try to save up for another camera such as the d40 or xt if you just want a good intro beginner dslr that will have many nice features. One of those paired w/ a 50mm 1.8 is a nice combo if you can afford it. It seems like that olympus 50 is a bit over priced when the canon and nikon 50 are around 100 dollars. GL
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    Well my camera is not refundable to new egg because it was decertified that's great... Now I have to sell it.. Hate my life
     
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    what's this decertified you speak of? Put it on ebay and craigslist it's holiday time so people are going to soon be wanting to get cameras for people so it just might be a good time to sell.
     
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    As I posted in your other thread on this subject, you can use an older Zuiko 50mm f/1.8 OM mount lens with an adapter. No auto focus, no auto modes, but it gets the job done well.
     
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    Who wants to have no autofocus or anything all the time when it's their primary lens? It would be best to just save up not try and get by soon that will be no fun at all.
     
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    I meant recertified. How much could I get for my kit? All originial packaging accesories and box.. Pretty much like buying retail....
     
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    Well, the Olympus has a 2x crop, and the canon is only 1.6, so The larger sensor of the canon and the much wider aperture available can give you a very shallow Depth of field. That is the main visible difference that I would notice, but post some pictures so we can have a look, and offer some advice.
     
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    well I mean you didn't get the wrong brand because any brand will work. However I'll say two things. When I first used a 50mm 1.8 on my old D60, it was amazingly different than the kit lens, like you experienced. There are many factors for this, but mainly it's because kit/slow zoom lenses aren't that 'great' and when you compare them to faster primes there is a huge difference.

    The point being is if you do decide to invest A LOT in lenses and more cameras in the future, you might want to consider other routes.

    For me after getting into this hobby, I couldn't go with any other company (besides Canon) because my biggest interest is in fast glass, and if you look at the lens selections from the top DSLR company's, Canon and Nikon in my opinion have some of the best glass. Also, when compared to some Zeiss lenses and Leica for instance, their fast glass is not CRAZY expensive.
     
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    Ok here are some comparisons.
    here are some pics i took with my friends canon XT and 50 mm lens:
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    Now here are gross results on my setup:

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    if anyone could tell me whats wrong here.. thanks
     
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    what were your settings for those shots? and like everyone said, you do realize that the 50mm lens is a better lens than the kit lens you have.

    i'm no pro but i guess i'll offer some feedback, forgive me if i'm wrong, and if i am, then someone please correct me haha.

    your first shot seems to be a bit blurry, probably because of a slow shutter speed, seeing as if you're using the kit lens indoors.

    your second shot... well your subject and background are insanely close, so if you want the blurred background, shallow depth of field, then you'll have to move him farther.

    your third shot... it seems to me its the same problem as shot number one, and your DoF is too big. the bokeh is also bad compared to the canon shots

    the canon shots have better bokeh (blurred area or quality of it) because theres more light availible. i'm pretty sure 1 and 2 are shot outside, which gives you a LOT more light than shooting indoors. canon shot number 3, it was indoors, correct? well the subject and the background seem to have enough space between to blur the background nicely

    hopefully that explains it. it just seems to me that you're using your camera in the wrong places with the wrong lenses. <--- no offense meant, just didn't know how else to word that.
     
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    thanks for your input!
    im trying to see whats better for me, to sell my whole setup and get a xt or xti with 50 mm lens? or keep mine and suffer... because a 50mm for olympus is $400
     

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