Do you keep your rejects?

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  1. William Petruzzo

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    For weddings I usually end up showing the client around 40% of the photos taken. For portrait sessions it's lower. Like Maybe 20%. As of right now, I'm holding onto every shot taken. But for the sake of hard drive space, I'm considering permanently deleting the ones I don't show them.

    What's your practice?
     
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    40% for weddings? Does that mean you throw out 60%?

    Once the wedding is banged out, garbage (closed eyes, look-aways, etc) goes to garbage. Everything else, goes to lab for 4x6 proofs. On average it is about 600frames (give/take). Once client chooses what they want for albums, digital images are used to put the album together -> client approves --> sent to print. They keep the proofs.
    If, its a DVD-only job, no prints, same idea, only then I, or whoever hired me, will make few collages and will include those on the DVD.
    Point is - garbage is garbage.
     
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    I don't do weddings but yes I keep my rejects if they are good technically or perhaps have space where print could be used within the photo.

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    I don't have much experience with paid jobs, but given the going rate for storage space per mb, and depending on how much you charge for your work, you could easily buy an internal SATA drive in the 100+ gig range for pretty cheap. Buy a docking bay for the drives, a SATA to USB one, and keep them in anti-static storage bags, which you get for free with each drive. I have about three SATA drives I use like this. If I want to go back to one for whatever reason, take it out and slap it in the dock.
     
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    I delete the obvious duds right away. I do keep the marginal ones that don't get seen by the client...but every so often, when I'm sure I won't need them, I go through my archive and 'thin the herd' to make storage & backup easier.
     
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    We keep ours around in case the client would ask specifically for an image. It's only come up a handful of times, but I'm glad we saved them for those cases.
     
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    I delete my rejects right after I look at them. If they didn't make the cut then, they'll never make the cut. So why keep them? I do keep all my keepers, though. I'll get rid of them eventually, but I always have that "what if" mentality.
     
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    We only keep the ones that the client knows which are the keepers..everything else is just a waste of space. What they don't know about won't hurt them if getting rid of it and it saves a ton of disk space.

    We offer a reminder every year after the event by placing online albums for potential print orders and these we keep forever. On these online albums, we ad the marginal ones that were not chosen initially and he sure helps print sales sometimes.
     
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    I've read similar situations where clients have contacted the photographer to ask if they have any shots of a certain person - the example I recall is a sudden death in the family and the only half decent shots they got were from the wedding.
    I would say that unless the shot is of the back of your lenscap (ie totally unusable) I would keep every shot from the event on backup. Storage space is dirt cheap these days and I would expect a working professional would make enough income to afford a decent backup setup.

    Myself I would say that the lesser shots from the day would simply get the single backing up though (or backing up once in a RAID setup or similar) whilst the keepers and edited keepers would get offsite backup as well since they are the more valuble shots and the ones more likley to be requested at a later date
     
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    I keep every raw file, once processed, images which are below par get binned and are never seen by the client however if there's a decent crop to be had from one of these then its that one the client gets as the numbered pic in the proofs.

    A 40% keep rate would have me looking for another vocation, I shoot, as with film, an average of 300 shots at a wedding binning maybe 30. H
     
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    For hobby shots rejects get deleted upon review. Usually on camera. I do a review in ViewNX after import to pc then do another round of deletes. The great captures are saved in RAW, PSD and JPG. The OK shots get saved as JPG.

    For jobs all shots are kept. Non-"keepers" are converted from RAW to JPG at about 80% and archived.

    I did just setup an amanda server though to handle my backups automatically with several terabytes worth of storage so I don't really need to think about it anymore.
     
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    Keep only the keepers.
    Your pictures represent you and your work.
    Why keep something that is less than what you would want others to judge you by?
    The 'delete' button is your best friend.
     

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