Do you think I should get it??? Need advice.

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  1. Blossom101

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    I have been wanting a Digital SLR Camera for a long long time. I would like to start taking pictures of people professionally. My dream is to be a child photographer. I have been saving up to buy a "professional camera", but with all the lenses and accessories that you need, it is going to take forever before I can afford what I want. I have the opportunity to purchase the following items for $1,300.00 from a photographer who is upgrading.

    EOS 40D SLR Camera
    Screen protectors
    EF 50mm f/1.8 II Autofocus lens
    EF-S 18-55 mm f/3.5-5.6 Autofocus Lens
    EF 75-300 F/4.0-5.6 III Lens
    4GB Flash memory card
    Rapid Fire Charger
    Tripod
    Digital Slave Flash
    Lowepro SLR/Notebook Case
    Heavy Duty Aluminum hard Case
    Compact Flash USB Memory Car Reader CR-10M (What is this?)

    Please tell me if this is a good deal and if you think this camera would do well taking pictures primarily of people. (on a professional level).

    I'm really scared to buy this, because 1,300.00 is a lot of money to me and the camera is used(He said he has had it for only 8 months), but I'm really scared to not buy it, because I don't think a deal like this comes around often.

    Please give me any advice you will.
    I know this camera has 10.1 Megapixels. Should I be looking into a camera with higher megapixels or do you think 10.1 is enough for what I'll be using it for?

    Thank you so so much for your help!
     
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    I shoot a Nikon so dont know much about the camera but its more about the sencor than the megapixels. The fact that its 8 months old really dont matter if its only clicked about 100 shots. Sorry but thats all I can help you with.
     
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    You can probably get a better deal on a similar camera and while some of that other stuff sounds OK, you don't need all that. The 40D is a fine camera, not worries there...but those lenses are near the bottom of the scale in terms of quality in the Canon line up.

    Professional photography isn't about having/using a 'professional' camera. It's much more about how the photographer uses their camera, along with their skill and creativity to create images. Being a successful professional photographer is more about doing business than it is about being a fantastic photographer.

    What is you knowledge/education level in terms of photography? If you still have a lot to learn, you may be better off with a cheaper camera like one of the Rebel series. The savings could be put towards a better lens, books or classes on photography & business.
     
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    I really appreciate your advice!

    I have no education in photography, but I definitely have a love for it and a talent, because everyone loves the pictures I take with my old trusty Canon Sure shot P&S. I would just rather go ahead and get the camera and lens that I need and then buy books and to learn and of course practice, practice, practice. If you were in my situation and your budget was around $1,500.00 ( but less is always better) and you would primarily want to take pictures of people. What camera and lens would you purchase? It doesn't matter if it is a Canon or nikon.

    Thanks again.
     
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    Thank you so much!

    So, do you think it is better to buy just the camera body and then a nice lens seperately?

    What is the difference in this Tamron 17-50 mm f/2.8 XR Di II LD LENS and a standard lens that would come with a camera?

    I assume that it wouldn't zoom way in on something. But .. it would be perfect to capture a clear focused picture of a person. Am I right?

    I know I sound like an idiot...but you gotta start somewhere, right?

    I do appreciate your help... It is nice to talk to someone who knows something about this.
     
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    Oh... another question....

    Would this Tamron lens that we are talking about fit most canon cameras if I were to upgrade again... say to the Canon 5D Mark II?
     
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    The simplest advice on buying a brand new d-slr is to go to a large web site like B&H Photo or Adorama,and find out the current prices from two high-volume, established companies. Currently, Canon has some large rebate packages, $300 to $400 as I recall, when a printer is purchased with a camera.

    The places that try and sell you a complete package are often,shall we say, somewhat less reputable companies, that sell the accessories at huge markups, like 600 to 1000 percent over wholesale prices.

    Like, the aluminum hard case for example--do you really need one of those things? Check around and see what $1,300 will buy you.
     
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    $1300 could probably get you a Nikon D90 with a Tamron 28-75 f/2.8 lens, to me that would be pretty well suited for what your goals are.

    B&H's pricing:
    Nikon D90 Body: $891
    Tamron 28-75 f/2.8: $380

    Total: $1271

    Enough left over for a nice memory card. :D

    Or:

    Nikon D90 Body: $891
    Tamron 17-50 f/2.8 $449

    Total: $1340
     
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    Yes, because the 'kit' lens that they usually package with the entry level cameras is not the best quality lens. It's made to be cheap and light. The kit lenses are good for getting started, but since you have professional aspirations, you might as well get a better lens from the start. You might also consider a 'prime' (non-zoom) lens. The usual recommendation is the EF 50mm F1.8 (mostly because it's cheap) but there are better (and more expensive) options for professional use.

    The biggest difference is that the Tamron lens I linked to has a large maximum aperture throughout the zoom range. It's maximum aperture is F2.8 (smaller F numbers means a larger aperture). The kit lens has a variable max aperture of F3.5 to F5.6 (smaller than F2.8). A larger aperture is a benefit for many reasons.

    Yes, it wouldn't zoom way in on something...but it does have the ability to give you great image quality for a decent price.

    We all have to start somewhere, that's right. At least you are asking the questions before buying....many people buy first and then come here to ask if they made a good decision.


    Ah...here is the catch. That particular lens will not work with the 5D II.

    Most DSLR cameras have what we call a 'crop' or 'APS-S' sensor. This just means that the image sensor is smaller than a frame of 35mm film. (since 35mm film was the prevailing standard, we compare everything to that). Camera and lens companies have started making lenses that are make specifically for these smaller sensors. These lenses tend to be smaller and less expensive, but the downside is that they are not compatible with 35mm film SLR cameras, or 'Full Frame' DSLR cameras like the 5D. All Canon EF-S lenses fall into this category as well.

    If you do have plans to someday upgrade to a full frame camera like the 5D series...then it might be a good idea to buy a lens that will be compatible with it. It will probably cost you more though.
    Some options would be;
    the EF 17-40mm F4 L (a great lens but only has a max aperture of F4)
    the EF 16-35mm F2.8 L (very expensive)
    the EF 24-70mm F2.8 L (very large and expensive)

    There are many other options, so it's worth doing some research. Keep in mind that high quality lenses are a great investment. They will probably be with you longer than any one camera and they hold their value pretty well if you decide to sell them in the future.
     
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    So what is the difference between the Tamron 28-75 f/2.8 and the Tamron 17-50 mm f/2.8 lenses?

    I actually feel like I'm learning something thanks to all of you!
     
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    Different range...

    The 17-50 is much wider (more in the picture), while the 28-75 has more zoom and overall range.
     

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