DSLR sensors

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    Hi all,
    I'm looking to move up to a DSLR, entry level that I can grow with. I'm looking to spend around $1000 w/a kit lens, new or used. My question is which camera sensors are better suited for low light? Also, has the technoligy in sensors changed much? And are there any new emerging camera bodies to look for?

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    Ask this very basic question:

    Who do you hate more Shaq or Kobe?

    Once you have answered that question ask yourself another one: How much "low light" shooting are you REALLY going to be doing. I eagerly await your reply dear sir.
     
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    Well, I work mostly at night outdoors. And I come across some unique landscape and cityscape images. What I own now always leaves alot of noise on my images. What would you recommend?
     
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    noise ninja and photoshop
    you will ALWAYS get noise (but i know you mean your getting too much noise)
    just use a lower iso and a longer shutter
    but i guess sensors that have the ability to go VERY sensitive like 5D's 25600 which means it will more than likely work VERY well with iso at your needs (around 3200)

    now i am not recommending the 5d what so ever, it wouldn't be worth your while ATM but im giving you an example

    also i went night shooting forthe first time the other day with my 450D

    here is the results (all i done was in photoshop i turned the temperature down so it removed the yellow-cast you get in night shots. then run it through Noise ninja)

    http://uuilliam.deviantart.com/art/propellerhead-124081842 - 1.3 second shutter at ISO 100 and aperture f/5
    http://uuilliam.deviantart.com/art/Holytown-Memorial-124080789 - ISO 400 shutter 3.2 second aperture f/6.3
    http://uuilliam.deviantart.com/art/Shipyard-Reflection-124081522 - ISO 100 shutter 4 second aperture f/7.1
     
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    If you've been using a compact digital any DSLR introduced in the last 4 or 5 years will probably be a significant improvement. Whatever Canon or Nikon DSLR kit that costs what you want to spend will do you just fine. If it were me, I'd buy the cheapest Nikon or Canon body I could find (introduced in the last couple of years), and get a f/2.8 Tamron or Sigma zoom instead of the kit lens.

    The most bang for the buck for low light shooting right now is the Canon 5D (mk I), but even discontinued it'll cost almost $2000 new with a lens.
     
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    +1 on the D5000. Or if you can afford it, it's bigger brother, the D90 so you get a few more features. They have the same CMOS image sensor.

    In fact the D5000, D90, and the D300 all have the same CMOS image sensor.

    Here's a link to DXO and image quality info on the three side-by-side. The D90 has the best ISO performance of the 3. DXO only rates RAW IQ (image quality), they don't compare features.
     
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    Noise then is going to be a simple fact of life, unless you invest in a tripod. If you have a tripod then you may be able to capture the cityscapes (or whatever it is youre after). However, if you are working in pitch black, where the distant flickering of lights is seen int he distance, then youre going to run into the limitations of a dSLR very quickly.

    -1 on the D5000. If you don't mind buying used or refurbished (and you shouldn't) go for something else.

    You can get a refurbed D90 and a nice lens for around 1000 bucks.
     
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    So the CMOS is the better sensor... I like the feel of D90. Is nikon now of choice in the DSLR catagory in this price range?

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    CMOS, CCD - useless technobabble that only technophiles care about it. The people who actually USE the equipment know that most cameras made in the last 5 years or so, will be able to handle 90% of the tasks you throw at it. Do not focus on "technical specs" and instead look at what "extras" you get.

    If you want the ability to capture video, by all means go with a refurbished D90 - I had a chance to play with one and it feels as sturdy as the old D80. If you can find a used D200 though, I would get that over a D90. The only reason I like the newer models, is they have that nicer screen, but really it doesn't matter. If I had a choice to save more or get a nice screen, I'd save money.
     
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    The most important part when making an image is the photographer, not the equipment.
     
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    Better for what??

    Its just like the VHS/Beta wars from the previous millennium. One may be technically better in theory, but technical advances result in a leap-frogging effect where at any one time one is better than the other but that reverses in a minute or so.

    At this particular eye-blink moment of time, systems based on CMOS sensors are delivering lower noise at high ISOs than CCD based systems when resolution and photosite size are approximately the same. This could change at any minute.
     

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