Enlarger trouble Beseler 67XL-VC

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  1. AnaBo

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    Hi everyone, first time here and need your expertise.

    I bought and assembled the enlarger myself a a while back maybe upto a year ago and didn't get a chance to actually use it until now.

    So I was going to make a few contact sheets, but the paper came out blank, so I thought i didn't expose it long enough. Second time around it still came out blank and thought maybe I didn't actually pour developer in the tray and turned on the light. The paper turned black very quickly so that wasn't it. Next I noticed that I had left the lever for the light source as white light and switched it to filter and no light shined through..
    This lamp house comes with the filters already integrated and you use a knob to change the filters. The whole head came already as one piece, so I know it wasn't something gone wrong during assembly.

    So why do I get light with the white light but no print and no light at all with the filters?
    The manual is very short, sticks to assembly and does not answer my questions in any way.
    I appreciate your time and answers.
     
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    If light comes through the lens and falls on the paper then it is not an enlarger problem. You said you were in white light mode, was the light white?
     
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    yes the light is white, there is a red filter bellow the lens but the initial light is white. Once i switch it to filter, no matter what filter i use there is nothing shining through.. could the filters be jammed or something obstructing the light?
     
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    Move the red filter out of the way and let us know what happens.
     
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    Got the red filter out of the way and there is very dim light.. guess I haven't printed in a very long time and was expecting it to be brighter, will try it out in a couple of hours.

    What is the red filter for? the manual does not explain it, but I can swing it out of the way. And this brings me to another question, shouldn´t the white light burn the paper anyway?..
     
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    What is the color of your safety light in the darkroom? This filter is probably cutting out most of the light so that you don't get a print. I have never bought a new enlarger so I'm not sure what this filter is but I imagine it is removable so that you can put whatever else you want in the holder.

    As far as being dim, it is hard to quantify dim in this context without seeing it. But you do have an aperture setting on your lens. Maybe it is closed down all the way.
     
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    the contrast filters are set, I cannot take them out, just change them with a knob. and the red filter is under the lens on a swinging little tray. (lens,filter,paper) my aperture was pretty much open all the way. was set at f4 and the widest is f3.5. I guess i need to try it without the filter...
    I have a red safe light next to the enlarger which turns off when exposing and an OC near the chemistry..

    I just read never to mix safelights because it may cause fogging, but I´m not even getting that so still the big question is, shouldn't I have gotten something from the white light or might the red filter in the way be the problem?

    f4-35secs should show something right? but get a super clean white sheet.
    Thanks so much for your time.
     
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    You're welcome although, since you are new (I just realized), you don't know that it has been a while since my last darkroom session. :)

    But anyway, since you bought this new, don't you have the manual? It should tell you what this red filter is for. Because it is between the lens and paper is why I asked about your safety light. It may be acting the same way, ie protecting the paper from light. That's my best guess although I don't get what the point of it could ever be.

    As for the contrast filters, built in or not makes no difference in the way they are used. Is your paper multi-grade or graded? If graded, you need to dial them off or neutral, whatever it would be called. If your paper is multigrade, you need to pick whichever contrast setting fits your negs best.

    Where is ann when you need her? Her experience is current and it would be nice to have her here now... :lol:
     
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    Okay was not planning to go into the darkroom until later today but I had to check.

    No idea what the little red filter is for, but moved it out of the way and I printed a contact sheet :mrgreen:

    thanks so much for your input. I would have never moved it out of the way, I thought it needed to be there.

    one last question. Left the chemistry in the trays without covering them last night, are they still good today or should I mix fresh? made them yesterday.
     
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    the manual is strictly for assembly and there was nothing to help in the besseler site. you my friend have been a life saver. yesterday I had an extremely frustrating day in the dark but today I am all excited to go back in there. :hail:
     
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    I wouldn't worry about the chemistry for contact sheets...
     
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    I know this is an old thread, but I have several BESELER 67 AND CAN SHED SOME LIGHT ON THINGS. THERE ARE TWO MANUALS THAT CAME WITH THE ENLARGER, A GREEN ONE AND A PURPLE ONE. uNDER aCCESSORY fILTER hOLDER IT SAYA: THE RED SAFETY FIKTER MAY BE USED WHEN CHECKING COMPOSITION OF THE PROJECTED IMAGE WHILE THERE IS ENLARGING PAPER IN THE EASEL. THIS FILTER SHOULD NOT BE USES WHEN WORKING COLOR OR PANCHROMATIC BLACK AND WHITE PAPERS, AS THESE MATERIALS ARE SENSITIVE TO RED LIGHT. i NEVER USE THIS FILTER , i JUST USE THE APPROPRIATE SIZE PAPER AND MAKE SURE THE IMAGE IS WHERE i WANT IT BEFORE i EVER TAKE THE UNEXPOSED SHEET OUT OF THE PAPER SAFE.mAKE SURE THE HOLDER IS COMPLETELY OUT OF THE WAY BEFORE YOU PRINT. sOMETHING THAT WILL HELP YOU DOWN THE ROAD, BUY YOURSELF A QUALITY LENS FROM eBAY SUCH AS A nIKOR 2.8, SCHEIDER 2.8, OR rHODAGON 2.8 50MM AND INCREASE THE QUALITY OF YOUR PRINTS. tHE FASTER LENS WILL GIVE YOU MORE LIGHT TO WORK WITH.
     

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