Experiment with and without the rule of thirds (C&C)

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  1. kalni

    kalni TPF Noob!

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    Okay its just a candle but I like the colors, am still trying to grasp the rule of
    thirds and here are the two versions. Does the rule make the shot in this
    case any better?

    Original -

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    With the rule of thirds applied -

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    The Rule of thirds is really more of a guideline, lol. This is one of those cases where it can be centered. Since there's nothing happening in the shot, you are pretty much doing a portrait of the candle. Portraits, for the most part, do not need to follow the rule of thirds (when close up).

    Had the whole candle and it's candlestick been in the shot, then the rule of thirds would make the photo more interesting.

    So, in this case, they are equally interesting. Although I like the second better because the flame bending to the left has somewhere to bend to.
     
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    I'd have shot it vertically (portrait) with the center of the flame 1/3 from the top of the frame and centered horizontally. Basically, just crop off the left and right sides from your centered shot, plus a little off the top (or shoot more of the stick).
     
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    Good call. :thumbup:
     
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    Your "ROT"-version (read "rule of thirds" ;)) would be helpful if you meant to turn this photo into a card and needed space for some writing.

    Other than that, such a simple subject does not need this "rule", as there's nothing there in the photo BUT this candle. You're pretty free to place it wherever you want and whatever you want to do with the photo.
     
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    Thank you all guys, I will try out the portrait style candle shot with ROT applied the next time.
    Also tomorrow I will be going out for my first ever nature photoshoot, I am sure the ROT will be more relevant.
     
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    Bitter Jeweler Been spending a lot of time on here!

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    Don't forget that if your subject is tall and narrow, you may be better served by shooting it in portrait aspect (vertical).
     
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    I agree with this... And for the record I think it looks great in a portrait orientation... I tried to make it look as though the candle was occupying the middle third of the frame on a diagonal angle... sort of... :)

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    PS - I can not see your example of the rule of thirds... Not sure why it isn't showing up...
     
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    The term "Rule of Thirds" is s misnomer. The word 'Rule' indicates that it should always be followed. Like everything in the art world, there is no such thing as a concrete rule. Guideline? Sure. Suggestion? Sure. Rule? Nah, it's definitely not a rule.

    And please, don't give me the "Rules were made to be broken" line. No one really believes that. Rule were made to be followed. Try that line on the cop next time you get pulled over for speeding and tell me what happens. :p
     
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    You've confused rules with laws.

    Whether a rule must always be followed or whether it's a general principle or guideline that allows for "rules were meant to be broken" or "exception to the rule" is determined by the context of it's use. The "rule of thirds" is a guideline, and is a perfectly reasonable phrase to use.

    Taking things too literally is often of little value in the real world of common every day use of language, and I don't see how it can help to beat this common phrase over the head with semantics.

    Addressing the real issue however, the rule of thirds is just one of many compositional principles that one should learn about and employ in the pursuit of photography or the other graphic arts. It's not usually enough to place a white dot in a particular place on a black canvas, unless it has context with something else placed on that black canvas as well.

    I would recommend to the OP the book "The Photographer's Eye" for a more thorough understanding of the many aspects of composition. The "rule of thirds"is just one piece in a much larger puzzle. By itself, it has little impact, but in concert with other compositional principles, it can make a great deal of difference.
     
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    Thanks for the book reco, I will be sure to get my hands on it :)
    And sorry for the broken link, actually I deleted the ROT variation, anyway it
    wasn't much, I had just aligned the candle along the right vertical guide of a
    ROT grid, while keeping the landscape mode. I agree vertical subjects
    look better in the portrait mode!
     
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    The "suggestion" of thirds is more like it.
     

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