external flash at shows/concerts

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  1. elementguy13

    elementguy13 TPF Noob!

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    I know many say that its not needed but they add so much depth, you cant argue with that. But my problem is I have an external flash that doesnt swivel so its either head on or no external flash at all. Is their any way around this? One i dont want to blind them and be a complete tool and two i dont want the pictures to be washed out but I could fix that by just changing the exposure right?
     
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    Yes, you can use a diffuser like this one:

    Lumiquest MidiBouncer - LQ3110 - LQ-110

    However, you don't want to do this. First off, you will probably be asked to leave. Second, a flash is disruptive at a concert no matter what. Third, get faster lenses.

    There is no place for a flash at a concert, sorry.

    -Nick
     
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    I'd say it depends on the type of concert. A jazz or orchestra concert, yeah probably going to be asked to leave. Pop/rock/rap concert or a rave and no one is likely to care.
     
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    Off camera flashes triggered by remotes.

    In this photo I hung a flash to either side of the stage, and triggered them with Pocket Wizards (with the band's permission).

    [​IMG]
     
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    JerryPH No longer a newbie, moving up!

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    I can... and do... lol. Ask anyone with 4 months of experience what is better... flat on camera flash made pictures, or properly exposed pictures of the event using THEIR lighting... 99.9% will say "toss that flash into your bag... because it is HURTING you, not helping you!

    In most public events/concerts and what not, you are NOT allowed flash in the first place. It is rude and can disrupt the music. Also, unless you have a very powerful flash, most are useless beyond 30 feet. I always get a laugh out of some P&S camera user uselessly fashing their tiny flash from hundreds of feet away. Besides, if you use the right equipment, you don't even need a flash... which is another thing... though they may let you sneak in a camera phone or a point&shoot, they will often not even let you pass with a dSLR.

    On those times that you do get in with a dSLR... fast glass and knowledge of how your equipment works and how to get the best from your camera is more important than being that "tool" that needs to be escorted out for disrupting the band.

    [​IMG]

    No flash needed.
     
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    LOL.. Both of those bands posted look very interesting....

    Jerry, I'll bet you shake your head and chuckle, as I do, at events like Dear Leader's speeches that are on TV when you see thousands of useless flashes going off in the stands.. It looks like glitter, but they are absolutely useless!
     
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    At an orchestra, you're probably not going to be able use a camera at all because of the shutter noise.
     
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    funny... i never thought my speeches made it out of my republic...
     
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    I am sorry but straight on flashing rarely if ever adds depth to an image. Proper use of strobes off camera is the only way to go.

    Also it depends entirely on the concert. Ksmattfish's example is good if you the photographer are deciding on the lighting. Afterall someone has to, this is not something that should be left up to chance of where the band will play. It's simple, if there is a good lightshow to work with, then don't ruin the show with a flash, especially if the lights are choreographed to the show, but if a guy is playing in a pub with no lighting what so ever then it's up to you as the photographer to do what you can.
     
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    Key words... "with permission". Nice shot. :)
     
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    I didn't even know you were on TV in Canada! :lol:
     
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    They have TV's in Canadia?
     

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